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Amnesia said:

I have included in red some low prediction for a less than 19M (18,88) fiscal year 2018 for Nintendo.

Here we can see that the Switch still hold done well against the PS4 even starting with one Q3 less.

What's this jargon? Predictions based on sales data and trends? You do know this is where we bash Nintendo and ignore that stuff, right? ;)



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I looked at my intend to buy list for the rest of the year and it is pretty clear that i will never have bought this many games for a system as i have for Switch in 2018



Asriel said:
I'm happy with my Switch because I have plenty to play. It suits my life-style right now (lengthy train commutes for work) so it's my default system. In fact, this is the first time in 20 years I've only used one system. I'm in the sweet-spot, really; plenty of ports coming to Switch are new to me, like the Crash remaster, Wolfenstein 2 and Ys 8, the latter of which I just finished after 55 hours play. I've got Octopath, Golf Story, Wolfenstein 2 and Crash to be getting on with, four expansions to consider (for Xenoblade, Mario + Rabbids, Sonic Mania and Splatoon 2), and eighteen indie games on my wishlist. Add near-certain purchases like Dark Souls Remastered (pre-ordered), Smash, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Tales of Vesperia, and War Groove, plus possible purchases like Pokemon Let's Go, Super Mario Party, and Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate, and there's more than enough to keep me occupied. It's not a stand-out year like last year, but for me, Switch is doing more than enough to keep me entertained. I have broad tastes when it comes to games, so keeping on top of the latest releases is less and less important to me; there's simply too much stuff. So what if a game is late on Switch? I can still play it when it arrives, and I'll play other stuff in the mean-time.

That being said, there are issues. The lack of any UI updates or save storage solution that doesn't require the subscription is poor form. A few streaming apps wouldn't go amiss and further details about the online mode would be good, but presumably the latter at least will be coming soon. Commercially, Nintendo have made a mistake in leaving such a huge gap between guaranteed system-sellers and that's something I really think they need to avoid in future.

But like I said, Switch keeps me busy and entertained with ease. There's more than enough software for me to consider buying and 2019 looks like it's going to shape up nicely: Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Daemon X Machina, Yoshi, and Pokemon Gen 8 could be joined by things like Dragon Quest XI, Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3. And that's without further announcements, which we know will come.

Thank you for this response. You reminded me of a couple of games I forgot to mention like Golf Story, DS Remastered and Bayo3. Will add those.

Amnesia said:

I have included in red some low prediction for a less than 19M (18,88) fiscal year 2018 for Nintendo.

Here we can see that the Switch still hold done well against the PS4 even starting with one Q3 less.

And thank you for these charts!



melbye said:
I looked at my intend to buy list for the rest of the year and it is pretty clear that i will never have bought this many games for a system as i have for Switch in 2018

Same as me, I have various games on my to buy list. I won't be bored anytime soon! :D



It was very bad. I didn't buy anything or connect online until recently,
was only playing Rocket League every now and then.

My dry spell was going to be broken by Dark Souls but that got delayed...
it wasn't until Sonic Mania Plus that I bought my first game this year!

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"What's this jargon? Predictions based on sales data and trends? You do know this is where we bash Nintendo and ignore that stuff, right? ;)"

I have not understood what you wanted to tell me here.



Software sales were good, especially for the big games. Hardware is decent but could have been better even with one high(er) profile game. But eh, it's still smooth sailing I'd say.

Personally in this first half of the year I actually bought a Switch, so that's good, though not with any 2018 game. For the rest of the year maybe I'll get Smash. I have 64 and Brawl so the pattern is I always seem to skip a generation, but this is not a planned thing so who knows... I also need to get Hyrule Warriors which would be a 2018 game, but that's more for collection-purposes. I liked that game on WiiU though.



It's definitely not bad at all, people only give the impression they think it is "bad" because it's a response to those who think switch is the second coming (sales-wise).

When there are people setting the target/expectations as 20m shipped, outselling PS4 in 2018, outselling PS4 lifetime or even those two people on here who think it will be the best selling console of all time.

When there are people here who claim it will do that well then what is considered "bad" gets higher and higher. It's no longer a case of if it's bad for a console, it's the case of is it bad compared to what people have claimed. If sales indicate it won't do as well as people have predicted, then the response is that it's bad.

 

Also I think Labo must die too.



Medisti said:
Amnesia said:

I have included in red some low prediction for a less than 19M (18,88) fiscal year 2018 for Nintendo.

Here we can see that the Switch still hold done well against the PS4 even starting with one Q3 less.

What's this jargon? Predictions based on sales data and trends? You do know this is where we bash Nintendo and ignore that stuff, right? ;)

No but we shouldnt deny how awful they've been for this first half.



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The firat half od 2018 was not bad really. It just has not had a major system seller in the line up so hype has cooled down for the time being. Also it shoukd be noted that people who did not iwn a WiiU have nothing to complain about, as we saw a number of quality WiiU ports that many people never got the chance to play.

Bayonetta 1/2, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, and Captain Toad were all excellent additions to the Switch's library.

We also got a few first party exclusives and one excellent 3rd party exclusive. Kirby is a fun little game, despite its MANY flaws, and has sold very well. Mario Tennis is a really good game, abiet not a system seller. Octopath Traveler however is phenomenal and continues to exceed expectations, and Go Vacation just recently released as well.

Then we have multiplats...and we actually got quite a few current get ports to list here....

Ys VIII
Wolfenstein 2
South Park:Fractured But Whole
Crash Nsane Trilogy
Fortnite
Minecraft
Lego Incredibles
Blazeblue Cross Tag
Palidins

Just to name a few...

So as you can see, the Switch did not have a BAD year by any means. The only reasom it LOOKs bad is because A year 1 was so stacked with system selling exclusives that it looks bad by comparison, and B we have not had ANY system selling exclusives until Smash and Pokemon drop this holiday. You could argue Octopath is moving units, especially in Japan, but it is not moving gangbusters like Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, and Mario Kart did nor what Smash and Pokemon will do later this year. Throw in the fact that the media loves to bash any console that does well for a time and gives them even the slightest reason to spin into a negative, especially in Nintendo's case coming off of the WiiU and it makes the Switch a prime target for clickbait.

So was Q1 2018 bad? No not by any means. However that does not mean it was good for everyone as a whole. Someone who supported the WiiU might not have any use for WiiU ports. Most people did not, but many Switch owners did. Furthermore if you have another console and you do not value the portability aspect, bigger multiplat games will likely be bought on the PS4 or X1. If you do value portability however, many people still choose the Switch version over the PS4 or X1 version.

So while 2018 so was has been pretty decent as a whole, it was not good for everyone. It is all a matter of perspective really.



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