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The firat half od 2018 was not bad really. It just has not had a major system seller in the line up so hype has cooled down for the time being. Also it shoukd be noted that people who did not iwn a WiiU have nothing to complain about, as we saw a number of quality WiiU ports that many people never got the chance to play.

Bayonetta 1/2, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, and Captain Toad were all excellent additions to the Switch's library.

We also got a few first party exclusives and one excellent 3rd party exclusive. Kirby is a fun little game, despite its MANY flaws, and has sold very well. Mario Tennis is a really good game, abiet not a system seller. Octopath Traveler however is phenomenal and continues to exceed expectations, and Go Vacation just recently released as well.

Then we have multiplats...and we actually got quite a few current get ports to list here....

Ys VIII
Wolfenstein 2
South Park:Fractured But Whole
Crash Nsane Trilogy
Fortnite
Minecraft
Lego Incredibles
Blazeblue Cross Tag
Palidins

Just to name a few...

So as you can see, the Switch did not have a BAD year by any means. The only reasom it LOOKs bad is because A year 1 was so stacked with system selling exclusives that it looks bad by comparison, and B we have not had ANY system selling exclusives until Smash and Pokemon drop this holiday. You could argue Octopath is moving units, especially in Japan, but it is not moving gangbusters like Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, and Mario Kart did nor what Smash and Pokemon will do later this year. Throw in the fact that the media loves to bash any console that does well for a time and gives them even the slightest reason to spin into a negative, especially in Nintendo's case coming off of the WiiU and it makes the Switch a prime target for clickbait.

So was Q1 2018 bad? No not by any means. However that does not mean it was good for everyone as a whole. Someone who supported the WiiU might not have any use for WiiU ports. Most people did not, but many Switch owners did. Furthermore if you have another console and you do not value the portability aspect, bigger multiplat games will likely be bought on the PS4 or X1. If you do value portability however, many people still choose the Switch version over the PS4 or X1 version.

So while 2018 so was has been pretty decent as a whole, it was not good for everyone. It is all a matter of perspective really.



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GoOnKid said:
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glad some people have enjoyed it. it's been woeful for me, not one game i wanted for the system for 8 months.



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Simply put, it was bad.
Not awful. Just bad.

The only reason it's not awful is because Switch is a success.
If it wasn't - and it wasn't expected to be when last year and this year's line-up was being planned - people wouldn't too happy about it.

Quantity and diversity are important when buying a console, but the main reason are those big titles.
And this year you'll have one (Smash) and another one that is not garanteed to be a big title (Pokémon).

So, again, Nintendo needed more titles for this year (not less as we saw).
I don't know nearly enough to talk about sales, but from what i have been Reading, the latest HW numbers were a let down. They also show that the hybrid concept alone isn't enough to sell big numbers.

I said it before and i'll say it again: Nintendo mismanaged the release Schedule. Period. Had the Switch been just a moderate success and this would be even more clear.
Last year, when i started questioning Nintendo's reveals, i was accused of being pessimistic, of not seeing the facts and how Nintendo operates.
It seems that time showed that Nintendo did not learn from all it's mistakes, after all.



Decent first-half, though maybe a bit under what we had last year I still thing my few purchases made a lot of my time worth it.

Kirby is/was a pretty neat game. (That I would actually put in 2nd place in my top behind PR).

Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey Redux is a great remaster of the old DS classic, I love the franchise so I was bound to.

Mario Tennis Aces has the most competitive aspect of any MT game thus far, I'm glad it sold that well in the mean time.

Octopath Traveler is my gen of this year thus far. It has everything to be a remarkable classic for future generations to come.

Now for what's coming for the rest of the year, we have a pretty dry August-September combo that will still receive noticeable software such as MHGen Ultimate, Xenoblade 2 Torna The Golden Country (It's also at a lower price so it could mean this expansion have a shot at getting decent sales) until stuff starts to ramp up in October with Super Mario Party, Star(Fox) Link, until the holiday season with the 2 big hitters for this year, Pokémon and Smash !




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Amnesia said:

I have included in red some low prediction for a less than 19M (18,88) fiscal year 2018 for Nintendo.

Here we can see that the Switch still hold done well against the PS4 even starting with one Q3 less.

So you are comparing the switch with the wii and thats how you came up with that 2.5 10.5 4 million number? Yet ignore that the wii started the year with a strong 5.1 and 4.9 million while the switch is starting with 1.8 million. I know pokemon and smash are popular but 10.5 seems a tad farfetched. We will see I guess but I would be willing to bet money it will be much lower than that.



1st and 2nd party wise the first half of 2018 was a disappointment. While games like Kirby and Mario Tennis were good. They weren't anything amazing. I thought Nintendo would have a bigger hit but I guess not. They were saving them for the holiday. Oh well. 3rd party wise it was awesome. Tons of indies and A/AA games that came out. Even though a lot of them are coming in June. (Technically 1st half but seriously why was this not spread out?) I feel like 3rd party wise the Switch continues to get better.



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Go back two years when the Wii U was a thing, then fast forward to today. The first half of 2018 has been absolutely fine with a steady supply of games. Anybody thinking Nintendo are to be pumping out high quality games at the rate of last year are a bit delusional. The reason we got that great 2017 is because the Wii U took the hit so all focus was on getting a killer line up for Switch.



omarct said:
Amnesia said:

I have included in red some low prediction for a less than 19M (18,88) fiscal year 2018 for Nintendo.

Here we can see that the Switch still hold done well against the PS4 even starting with one Q3 less.

So you are comparing the switch with the wii and thats how you came up with that 2.5 10.5 4 million number? Yet ignore that the wii started the year with a strong 5.1 and 4.9 million while the switch is starting with 1.8 million. I know pokemon and smash are popular but 10.5 seems a tad farfetched. We will see I guess but I would be willing to bet money it will be much lower than that.

We will see :)
I even think they can do 11+ for this Q3.
They will make an insane marketing for SSBU with people dancing in the street in New York and so...and trailers every weeks from October.
This was already planned for a while that Nintendo wanted to deliver as much as they could on the first year, and hold with the strict minimum for the 6 first months of 2018 (not fiscal but real year). September is almost here already. We will see massive marketing* for Mario Party, Pokemon and SSBU. And this will work as usual.

*marketing is the key here : with the money they got with Labo and Mario Kart Dx which costed nothing, they have enough for powerfull marketing.



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