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A thing we havent really talked much about when it comes to the MS and Xbox situation is Rare. I mean maybe Nintendo should make an offer to acquire them. I think it would help Nintendo out with more constant releases. Rare has always been very efficient. I mean they released like 13 N64 games in 5 years. I would like to see them being merged with Retro Studios to work on Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong, Conker, Battletoads etc... Maybe even get Double Fine and make Fine Rare Retro Studios(or whatever.lol). I think that would be a team like no other. The creativity and experience of those teams would be something else. Also a lot of gamers have been wanting Rare back to Nintendo for like 20 years and would really give Nintendo some much needed good publicity.

I dont know. Im not a business guy at all, so maybe this would be way more complicated than Im laying out here. But man, what a dream



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KLXVER said:

A thing we havent really talked much about when it comes to the MS and Xbox situation is Rare. I mean maybe Nintendo should make an offer to acquire them. I think it would help Nintendo out with more constant releases. Rare has always been very efficient. I mean they released like 13 N64 games in 5 years. I would like to see them being merged with Retro Studios to work on Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong, Conker, Battletoads etc... Maybe even get Double Fine and make Fine Rare Retro Studios(or whatever.lol). I think that would be a team like no other. The creativity and experience of those teams would be something else. Also a lot of gamers have been wanting Rare back to Nintendo for like 20 years and would really give Nintendo some much needed good publicity.

I dont know. Im not a business guy at all, so maybe this would be way more complicated than Im laying out here. But man, what a dream

Rare are long finished and have been since the 360 days they were already having problems during the N64 days with games running over budget and delays. The talent in the past doesn't automatically translate to today's era either, it's far more beneficial for Nintendo to create a new studio with new younger recruits to nurture them or buy one who works strictly with them like they did with NLG as they're already in the development ecosystem as well as committed to it and can retain talent far easier to train future talent because as seen with Retro themselves ironically who were the Turok team people eventually just start leaving because they aren't as fully committed to one gaming ecosystem.



KLXVER said:

A thing we havent really talked much about when it comes to the MS and Xbox situation is Rare. I mean maybe Nintendo should make an offer to acquire them.

You see, I understand the thought process, but also the developers at Rare of today are not the same of yesteryear (nor is the industry anything like what it used to be). If any acquisition were to occur, I’d want it to be over IP rights— if any company (other than Rare) should have ownership over legacy IP such as Banjo and Conker, it should be Nintendo, not Microsoft. Just my two cents.



Yeah sadly Rare had already lost their mojo by the time they left Nintendo; Starfox Adventures was already way below their SNES-N64 standard. Maybe Nintendo could have rehabilitated them, but as things stood, MS bought a lame duck.



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firebush03 said:

You see, I understand the thought process, but also the developers at Rare of today are not the same of yesteryear (nor is the industry anything like what it used to be). If any acquisition were to occur, I’d want it to be over IP rights— if any company (other than Rare) should have ownership over legacy IP such as Banjo and Conker, it should be Nintendo, not Microsoft. Just my two cents.

Banjo is certainly a very missed IP although DKB did a fantastic job of filling the void for an alternative to 3D Mario in the same way Banjo did, Conker however is the one where the is no real alternative to it's oddly unique as it leans more into being an adventure title that utilized the 3D platformer template the game doesn't even have a central mechanic like other games in the genre.



Wyrdness said:
firebush03 said:

You see, I understand the thought process, but also the developers at Rare of today are not the same of yesteryear (nor is the industry anything like what it used to be). If any acquisition were to occur, I’d want it to be over IP rights— if any company (other than Rare) should have ownership over legacy IP such as Banjo and Conker, it should be Nintendo, not Microsoft. Just my two cents.

Banjo is certainly a very missed IP although DKB did a fantastic job of filling the void for an alternative to 3D Mario in the same way Banjo did, Conker however is the one where the is no real alternative to it's oddly unique as it leans more into being an adventure title that utilized the 3D platformer template the game doesn't even have a central mechanic like other games in the genre.

With the state Rare is in, Microsoft might as well sell them to Nintendo for cheap.



For those who like 2D Zelda, The Adventures of Elliot is out now and is a cool little 2D-Zelda-type deal.



KLXVER said:

A thing we havent really talked much about when it comes to the MS and Xbox situation is Rare. I mean maybe Nintendo should make an offer to acquire them. I think it would help Nintendo out with more constant releases. Rare has always been very efficient. I mean they released like 13 N64 games in 5 years. I would like to see them being merged with Retro Studios to work on Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong, Conker, Battletoads etc... Maybe even get Double Fine and make Fine Rare Retro Studios(or whatever.lol). I think that would be a team like no other. The creativity and experience of those teams would be something else. Also a lot of gamers have been wanting Rare back to Nintendo for like 20 years and would really give Nintendo some much needed good publicity.

I dont know. Im not a business guy at all, so maybe this would be way more complicated than Im laying out here. But man, what a dream

I think Rare has given Microsoft one of their biggest hits in years in Sea of Thieves, so they're not in danger although they may have layoffs. It's a shame their new IP got cancelled though 

I think people are speaking too negatively on them though. Their output during the 360 years was still great, even their kinect stuff is fun & fulfils their goals. 

They've fallen into the modern day trap of successful live service game draining resources and cancelled project putting years to waste, so we haven't seen much from them this gen. As far as Banjo is concerned, I think Toys for Bob is a more interesting developer for that now or outsourcing it to another developer. Prior to Asha's reorg of Xbox, any future Banjo title would definitely be coming to Nintendo & PlayStation, but I think it won't be long before that multiplat strategy returns. There's little value in buying rare and I do think we will see a new banjo title (multiplat) before the decade is up.



This came across my feed today; a report from 1988 about how kids are going "nuts for Nintendo" and how they worry that the "violence" in Mario Bros, Zelda, and Duck Hunt will make kids violent. 

Cool little time capsule.