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The Fury said:
RenCutypoison said:

Stupidest thing i've heard. So for the cook to have a real job, he has to plant his own ingredients ?

Many do but that's not how it works as this is digital content. A fruit is a fruit, the cook has paid for that fruit, it's a physical thing and from then on, they own that fruit to do with as they please but they can only do it once. If they make a fruit salad, they can't then make another fruit salad from the same piece of fruit again.

What video makers on Youtube are doing is buying a digital licence (on a disc) to play the game for themselves. The physical disc they own, the packaging they own, there is only one of them and if they were to destroy it, that's the disc gone. The digital licence is different because the product isn't physical and can be replicated over and over by copying. This is where it becomes questionable. I own the entire DVD boxset of Frasier, just because I own that doesn't mean I can put it all up on youtube, put advertising on it and then claim the money I earn as my own. There are digital rights I've broken to do this, the gamers doing this on youtube are doing no different. Music is the same. But the video game developers turn away from removing the content/sueing people because they feel it advertises their product.

 

Maybe the "Let's Players" should give some of their money to the developer who made the game and therefore their career. Are they?

That's why youtubers are creating content under a network that pay licence fee for the use of all these "digital contents"



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In a way i would say he is right more so than ever. It depends on the games. A title like beyond two souls or heavy rain is so story related that people might think they have seen all they need by watching it. I also think there is a large crowd of people who likes the idea of videogames but cant get their head around actually playing them. In the end videogames are different but it is still a consumable media where you get the visuals and audio from it like you do with streaming a movie. The movie industry is popular because you dont need to participate and some people would surely like to treat games as movies as not feeling the need to have interaction with it. Think of it like a sports match. Youll still watch it even though it is in nature an interactive experience. Now of course no one knows how many that are satisfied with just watching are actually consumers lost or how many who watch it and decides to buy it because it is intruiging to them. But there havent to my recollection be made any reseaech on this.



He does have a point however any successful let's player and the like are watched for their personality not for the game theyre playing. Too narrow minded to say it's stealing.




No way that let's players should make that much money from just playing a videogame. 4 million dollars a year for Pewdiepie? More than 90% of his profits should go to the companies of the games he plays. And he should be forced to do a real job if you ask me lol.

Samus Aran said:

No way that let's players should make that much money from just playing a videogame. 4 million dollars a year for Pewdiepie? More than 90% of his profits should go to the companies of the games he plays. And he should be forced to do a real job if you ask me lol.

From what I've read, PewDiePie dropped out of college so that he could focus on making Youtube videos!



                
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betacon said:
He does have a point however any successful let's player and the like are watched for their personality not for the game theyre playing. Too narrow minded to say it's stealing.

Maybe they are, but that's irrelevant. Successful people bumming a free ride on somebody else's created content isn't somehow less egregious just because they're already successful. If a popular band or singer covers an old song, you wouldn't say that they aren't stealing if they don't pay royalties to the original songwriter just because they'd still be popular even if they hadn't covered that particular song. And covering a song is a lot more transformative than simply playing a video game.



he might be a dick but i agree with him on this, the developers should have some part in the profits made from their own products.



i disagree if for no other reason than i needed those youtube videos to finish a couple of the puzzles in fez.

i think for the most part these act as promotional videos and do more good than harm to a game. but i can kind of see phil's point. i wouldn't want a guy like you or me not to be able to share our awesome experience with a game by hitting the ps4's share button but if pewdiepie is making $4M a year off these let's play videos it does seem like he should be paying a portion of that back to the developers.



Sure he's a dick, but this is one rare case where I agree with him. I don't care if you're making shitty jokes over a game of Amnesia, its not your content.



Ugh. People should just stop giving him attention. Maybe he'll go away.



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