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sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

You know, the recent announcements. The price gap, kinect being mandatory, the app paywall, and no games for gold. All have been swiftly addressed.

As far as serious critiques go, only the weaker specs argument remains.


the inferior 3rd party games

the lack of indies

lack of 1st party games.

And the  stench of their past pr fuck ups still there, and all their flip flops.

Yawn.....the 3rd party game argument IS the weaker specs argument, just with a new coat of paint.

Lack of 1st party? lol cherry picking much? Their big game offerings are more numerous (DR3, F5, TF vs KZ and I:SF)

Indies and PR that has nothing to do with the actual console?.....wow you guys really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cons now.


Reality is what it is not matter how much you want to deny it.

PS4 has been besmirchuing the X1 for many reasons, not just price.  March already proved that.



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Slade6alpha said:
DucksUnlimited said:

Wait, seriously? I keep seeing this and I can't tell if it's an inside joke or real. Aside from being hardcore Ninty fans, they don't really have anything in common. Say what you will about JL, but he at least demonstrates a decent command of the English language in his posts. The same can't be said about Tre. Plus IIRC there was an interview with JL and his voice was different than Tre's.

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure on this either :(

I've been told by joethebro, Fusion, and maybe Seece that both are the same person. They both seem like are are around the same age, plus Tre is a wrestling fan. People act differently on here compared to YT; you're pretty much forced to act civil, or you're not going to stay for long. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yujEZGwKIR8

This is what makes me think they're messing with us lol



BeElite said:
sales2099 said:

Yawn.....the 3rd party game argument IS the weaker specs argument, just with a new coat of paint.

Lack of 1st party? lol cherry picking much? Their big game offerings are more numerous (DR3, F5, TF vs KZ and I:SF)

Indies and PR that has nothing to do with the actual console?.....wow you guys really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cons now.


Reality is what it is not matter how much you want to deny it.

PS4 has been besmirchuing the X1 for many reasons, not just price.  March already proved that.

Just saying times are a changing and you are still stuck in 2013. Having nothing to back yourself up except "my console sells more globally" is lowering the bar for yourself



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sales2099 said:
We all know this. Mainland Europe and Japan are just too much geography in Sonys favor.

But if it wins where we personally live, a local victory where our personal friends and family choose X1 over PS4, then I'll take that any day.

Because at the end of the day, I could care less what the Spanish or what the Japanese or whatever prefer. I care about what console people play most where I live.

You're not gonna be saying that if/when the PS4 presence becomes too great, globally, and the XBone gets left by the wayside. All your friends could have had a OG Xbox (I pick this console because it had a relatively strong presence in America)...but the PS2 selling millions worldwide not only in America, but everywhere else resulted in devs thinking "hrmm, I can put this game on Xbox and sell a few million in America, or I can put it on PS2 and sell a few million in America...and across Europe, and across Asia". And as more and more games went to PS2, PS2 sales increased and conversely less and less games went to Xbox and its sales waned.

You can take the XBone's sales declining and spin it to "oh, so what, I only care about local anyway" (I really don't think this is true. Sounds like damage control to me), but global will affect local some time down the road. What benefit is to make a game for a console knowing the sales of that game will be stymied by virtue of the console it's on only having a real presence in one region? Will the money spent on resources making that version be offset and then some by the potential sales? Or will they forgo it all together and put it on the system that's selling well worldwide and any money from potential sales missed on the XBone are made up for by the lack of making an XBone version in the first place.

This is all speculation, of course, based on if XBone's sales continue to slide. If they spike (and stay there) after they drop Kinect, then completely ignore this post. But either way, "I only care about a local victory" is not the mentality to have, because shareholders don't care about "local victories". They care about how it's doing everywhere. And that will affect what games come or don't come to the console. Which ultimately affects which console all your friends will be playing on.



NobleTeam360 said:
se7en7thre3 said:
If MS wants to compete with the same price, then they better hurry up with their cloud (graphical) performance enhancing claims.

I've addressed this before but I don't think that will be done with Xbox One, next Xbox for sure though. Also what does that have to do with the Xbox catching or not catching the PS4? just out of curiosity.


For the 3rd party multiplat primary gamer (does not gaf about exclusives), whatever console performs the best graphically aka bang for buck, will win their business.  For the last gen, there was a lot who  owned both the PS360 (myself included), but thanks to the mobile market boom this gen might shrink back to PS2 era level sales (maybe worse) so people will make a choice this time around.  I know for myself, I won't buy a PS4 or XB1 until after E3.  Right now PS4 is winning me over by default due to the power advantage.  Its just an uphill fight for MS...



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Slade6alpha said:

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure on this either :(

I've been told by joethebro, Fusion, and maybe Seece that both are the same person. They both seem like are are around the same age, plus Tre is a wrestling fan. People act differently on here compared to YT; you're pretty much forced to act civil, or you're not going to stay for long. 

Even Mummel believes that John Lucas= Doctre81, so who knows!



                
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se7en7thre3 said:
NobleTeam360 said:
se7en7thre3 said:
If MS wants to compete with the same price, then they better hurry up with their cloud (graphical) performance enhancing claims.

I've addressed this before but I don't think that will be done with Xbox One, next Xbox for sure though. Also what does that have to do with the Xbox catching or not catching the PS4? just out of curiosity.


For the 3rd party multiplat primary gamer (does not gaf about exclusives), whatever console performs the best graphically aka bang for buck, will win their business.  For the last gen, there was a lot who  owned both the PS360 (myself included), but thanks to the mobile market boom this gen might shrink back to PS2 era level sales (maybe worse) so people will make a choice this time around.  I know for myself, I won't buy a PS4 or XB1 until after E3.  Right now PS4 is winning me over by default due to the power advantage.  Its just an uphill fight for MS...

Oh fair points.



sales2099 said:
We all know this. Mainland Europe and Japan are just too much geography in Sonys favor.

But if it wins where we personally live, a local victory where our personal friends and family choose X1 over PS4, then I'll take that any day.

Because at the end of the day, I could care less what the Spanish or what the Japanese or whatever prefer. I care about what console people play most where I live.

So, you do care.



sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

Yawn.....the 3rd party game argument IS the weaker specs argument, just with a new coat of paint.

Lack of 1st party? lol cherry picking much? Their big game offerings are more numerous (DR3, F5, TF vs KZ and I:SF)

Indies and PR that has nothing to do with the actual console?.....wow you guys really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cons now.


Reality is what it is not matter how much you want to deny it.

PS4 has been besmirchuing the X1 for many reasons, not just price.  March already proved that.

Reality backs me up not hopes and dreams like you are rolling with.

Just saying times are a changing and you are still stuck in 2013. Having nothing to back yourself up except "my console sells more globally" is lowering the bar for yourself

Reality backs me up, not the hopes and dreams you are rolling with.

What proof do you have that times are changing, PS4 is killing the X1 in sales week after week after month.  Dont tell me you buy into the bs MS says, every month its a new message they are trying to fool people into buying they box with.  Its just desperate pr flip flopping.



BOLLOCKS said:
sales2099 said:
We all know this. Mainland Europe and Japan are just too much geography in Sonys favor.

But if it wins where we personally live, a local victory where our personal friends and family choose X1 over PS4, then I'll take that any day.

Because at the end of the day, I could care less what the Spanish or what the Japanese or whatever prefer. I care about what console people play most where I live.

So, you do care.

Im posting on a gaming forum, offcourse I care.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.