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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 14 May 2014
dangerguy said:
Are you people new this whole "console race" thing? Can we please just stop talking about this until maybe 2018?

If anyone is doubting MS and the future success of Xbox One, you're definitely naive to history. As was the last, this generation will be defined over several years, not the first 6 months or even first year.

For the MS/Xbox One haters, do you remember the $600 PS3 that launched in Nov 2006? That system was a disaster for Sony the first year and things finally began to turn around a year later (Nov 2, 2007) when they finally dropped to $399. Read this quote from Sony's president, Howard Stringer, in November 2007, a year after PS3 launched:

"Obviously, we've taken so much heat over the year on PS3 ... Finally, the turning point has been passed."

In July of 2011 PS3 finally began "catching up" to Xbox 360 and look where we are now. And let me just ask this question again: who "won" the last generation? When was that determined? Did it even matter?

It seems your overlooking one huge issue with your reasoning.

The PS3 was up against the Wii and 360, systems weaker than it and cheaper than it, and Sony as a whole lost a ton of money for it.

Last gen is completely irrelevant here, the One is going up against the PS4, which might be an easier opponent then the PS2 but much harder opponent then the 360. Lets not forget which company brought the PS3 up from its disatrous launch. The PS4 design alone is proof that they remember what happened with the PS3, and if anyone thinks that MS is going to beat PS by just catching up to it in price and features then they are in for a rude awakening.



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vivster on 14 May 2014
TheDrill said:
proof otherwise: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=183141&page=1#1

Someone didn't read the OP.

I won't say who but it's one of us and it's not me.



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sales2099 on 14 May 2014
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

BeElite on 14 May 2014
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint

none give a rats ass about x1 in canada, PS4 is the console of choice has been since day one.  It can cost more and nothing will change.

LMAO a PS4 must cost 1k more for X1 to out sale it.



sales2099 on 14 May 2014
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint

none give a rats ass about x1 in canada, PS4 is the console of choice has been since day one.  It can cost more and nothing will change.

LMAO a PS4 must cost 1k more for X1 to out sale it.

You said "a single market". I listed 2.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 14 May 2014
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint

I'm intrigued, which four?



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BeElite on 14 May 2014
sales2099 said:

You said "a single market". I listed 2.


X1 has a better shot at taking Spain then it does Canada. 

Even brasil X1 will eventually lose, X1 is the DCs true succesor.

 

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TheDrill on 14 May 2014
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint

none give a rats ass about x1 in canada, PS4 is the console of choice has been since day one.  It can cost more and nothing will change.

LMAO a PS4 must cost 1k more for X1 to out sale it.

You said "a single market". I listed 2.


X1 has a better shot at taking Spain then it does Canada. 

Even brasil X1 will eventually lose, X1 is the DCs true succesor.

DC successor? It already sold 4.5 million, and microsoft won't go bankrupt.

I won't be DC successor because it's already a lot more succesffull than DC



sales2099 on 14 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
X1 will not win a single market.

PS4 will beat it in US, its still superior in most ways. For X1 to "win" it needs price advantage like if not bigger then the 360 had over PS3. X1 lacks all the other advantages xbox has last gen.

Price parity does not magically erase all the disadvantages x1 has.

Your right, MS's announcement taking away 4 major cons will erase the disadvantages ;)

So at the very least X1 will win in Canada and Brazil by your viewpoint

I'm intrigued, which four?

 

You know, the recent announcements. The price gap, kinect being mandatory, the app paywall, and no games for gold. All have been swiftly addressed.

As far as serious critiques go, only the weaker specs argument remains.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 14 May 2014
BeElite said:

X1 has a better shot at taking Spain then it does Canada. 

Even brasil X1 will eventually lose, X1 is the DCs true succesor.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank