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Slade6alpha said:
superchunk said:
I miss John Lucas. He really knows how to declare real predictions.

Isn't he Doctre81 on youtube? You catch all the shennanigans of him on his YT page. 

Wait, seriously? I keep seeing this and I can't tell if it's an inside joke or real. Aside from being hardcore Ninty fans, they don't really have anything in common. Say what you will about JL, but he at least demonstrates a decent command of the English language in his posts. The same can't be said about Tre. Plus IIRC there was an interview with JL and his voice was different than Tre's.



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If MS wants to compete with the same price, then they better hurry up with their cloud (graphical) performance enhancing claims.



BeElite said:
sales2099 said:

You said "a single market". I listed 2.


X1 has a better shot at taking Spain then it does Canada. 

Even brasil X1 will eventually lose, X1 is the DCs true succesor.

Then you sir have no idea what you are talking about. X1 will launch at $399 in Canada where PS4 is still $450. Canadian tastes in gaming mirror that of the US so the gap will shrink faster. You do realize Spain is THE most PS brand loyal country in Europe right? Please don't confuse X1 with WiiU with the Dreamcast remark.

Unless you are super sarcastic now, because your post is just plain wrong.



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sales2099 said:

You know, the recent announcements. The price gap, kinect being mandatory, the app paywall, and no games for gold. All have been swiftly addressed.

As far as serious critiques go, only the weaker specs argument remains.


the inferior 3rd party games

the lack of indies

lack of 1st party games.

And the  stench of their past pr fuck ups still there, and all their flip flops.



BeElite said:


X1 has a better shot at taking Spain then it does Canada. 

Even brasil X1 will eventually lose, X1 is the DCs true succesor.

Good... let the hate flow through you...



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sales2099 said:
 

Then you sir have no idea what you are talking about. X1 will launch at $399 in Canada where PS4 is still $450. Canadian tastes in gaming mirror that of the US so the gap will shrink faster. You do realize Spain is THE most PS brand loyal country in Europe right? Please don't confuse X1 with WiiU with the Dreamcast remark.

Unless you are super sarcastic now, because your post is just plain wrong.


Canada does not care about X1, i walkeld in a store in early dec and picked one up.  u could grab one all nov and dec if you wanted one.

X1 was never in big demend over here, 50 will not change that.  Retailers and sales people seem the biggest obstacle, they massivly shit talk the X1.



se7en7thre3 said:
If MS wants to compete with the same price, then they better hurry up with their cloud (graphical) performance enhancing claims.

I've addressed this before but I don't think that will be done with Xbox One, next Xbox for sure though. Also what does that have to do with the Xbox catching or not catching the PS4? just out of curiosity.



DucksUnlimited said:
Slade6alpha said:
superchunk said:
I miss John Lucas. He really knows how to declare real predictions.

Isn't he Doctre81 on youtube? You catch all the shennanigans of him on his YT page. 

Wait, seriously? I keep seeing this and I can't tell if it's an inside joke or real. Aside from being hardcore Ninty fans, they don't really have anything in common. Say what you will about JL, but he at least demonstrates a decent command of the English language in his posts. The same can't be said about Tre. Plus IIRC there was an interview with JL and his voice was different than Tre's.

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure on this either :(

I've been told by joethebro, Fusion, and maybe Seece that both are the same person. They both seem like are are around the same age, plus Tre is a wrestling fan. People act differently on here compared to YT; you're pretty much forced to act civil, or you're not going to stay for long. 



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sales2099 said:

You know, the recent announcements.

The price gap,

Wii U and Ouya are cheaper.

kinect being mandatory,

But what about attach rate?

the app paywall

Not entirely gone yet.

and no games for gold.

classic exclusives gamers have been dying to play.

All have been swiftly addressed.

While I was being facetious with the previous 4 rectified cons, which are ultimately good things. I have to ask how exactly can you consider any of these changes "swift" when its nearly been half a year since launch and these changes have still yet to go through.

As far as serious critiques go, only the weaker specs argument remains.

We'll, see I'm eating right now, so I'll concede that argument to you. For now...

Standing down.



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BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

You know, the recent announcements. The price gap, kinect being mandatory, the app paywall, and no games for gold. All have been swiftly addressed.

As far as serious critiques go, only the weaker specs argument remains.


the inferior 3rd party games

the lack of indies

lack of 1st party games.

And the  stench of their past pr fuck ups still there, and all their flip flops.

Yawn.....the 3rd party game argument IS the weaker specs argument, just with a new coat of paint.

Lack of 1st party? lol cherry picking much? Their big game offerings are more numerous (DR3, F5, TF vs KZ and I:SF)

Indies and PR that has nothing to do with the actual console?.....wow you guys really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cons now.



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