Yes, but that all will need time. You can be sure, should WiiU start to explode or only games based on UE start to sell good, Epic WILL port the engine. But they don't bother, because it makes no business-sense yet. So I say, that in the moment it is not important and for the future we will have to see how these things pan out.

I also said, it would be a clever move from Nintendo to pay for porting UE4.

I think youre gonna loose the bet with Ninjablade but win the other two. On topic, i say UE4 will be on WiiU 100%...but when its already well stablished on every other platform so devs find nonsensical to use UE3 anymore...

LOL, I'm carefully optimistic about my bet with Ninjablade. WiiU sold pretty well on the first weeks AND Sony tends to release in one region later (PS3 in europe and Vita in Europe and US).

I agree with you on UE4. That also needs the WiiU selling enough to justify putting enough games on it.

Funny how Nintendo is the only one needing to justify this and that.

Nintendo doesn't care about Epic or Unreal Engine 4, and the feeling is likely mutual on the other side.

Nintendo's best bet now is to focus on indie developers, they are going nowhere trying to court the big Western devs and even got embarrassed by their closest partner in Ubi Soft with the Rayman debacle.

Nintendo would be better off trying to hit pay dirt by finding the next Angry Birds or Minecraft or Plants Vs. Zombies before someone else gets to it.

All that "downporting" PS4/720 games onto the Wii U does is point out how much of a hardware difference there is and makes Nintendo look even worse. They are better off focusing on original content made for the Wii U exclusively, and since big publishers won't gift exclusives, it's time to focus on indies.

This thread should have ended right here tbh, although you are incorrect regarding the fourth fact. Unreal Engine licences are given on a platform by platform basis. Porting a PS4 or 720 SKU of an Unreal 4 powered game to the Wii U will mean the developer will need to buy a separate licence for the Wii U. Not having the tools and support from Epic will make the Wii U licence cheaper though.

If you ended the thread there, I would have been right lol.

The bottom line is that EPIC is making it more difficult for wiiu developers to use their engine. Arguing about the technical specifications or the process by which you port it, is useless. Nobody cares how you do it lol, will a developer waste the time doing it? That is the question.

Apparently some people don't grasp the profit motive in creating these 'games.' Whatever the profit justification is, that's what you should be looking at. Obviously wiiu software sales are a graveyard, and we can't expect even COD or MADDEN to sell any meaningful numbers. Whatever the (low) number of units needed to break even is -- that number will be a justification to develop on wiiu.

As of this news, do you really anticipate every UE4 game on PS4/Xbax629 to also make it's way onto the wiiu? Don't kid yourself lol... IF that happens, you can be proven right. WHEN it doesn't happen, --well you'll realize your argument was invalid because you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.

Ubisoft once stated it cost about $1.2 million to port a game to Wii U.    That means to obtain a ROI, they'd need to sell about 55,000 units.

To port an engine may cost the same so your first game would need to double that return or be amortized across all games the company intends to develop on Wii U.

it will all depends on if the devs are committed and think the game is worth putting on the Wii U

You would have to link the article. Even then, it sounds to vague. We have no idea what games would be in question, actual development costs, time constraints. Too many factors. "Ubisoft once said" is too vague of a statement.

Given the wiiu's lack of hardware, I wouldn't doubt that it would be beneficial to port shovelware onto the system. Much like the wii. But I'm having a hard time believing quality, AAA titles will be getting the same treatement, if even appearing on the wiiu. The devs and publishers, very early on, are making it known that they just don't have alot of confidence in the wiiu. I agree with their position, from an artistic perspective. But if the money is there, you'll see the games.

Sales are so low as of right now that it's just not something to call one way or another. Although you can speculate, as of now, that thing aren't looking good. It's the narrative and attitude that's being formed amongst the developers, publishers and consumer community in regard to this wiiu.