Whatever. :P
Like I told you, I already went over that with Oni, and actually pointed them out in his list. -> http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4645988

So your post is just making it fuzzy again, when before we had numbers to work off of. And plus, now you're jumping from numbers to quality, so you're all over the place Tor.

Quality is a reasonable argument when someone calls the Wii the saving grace of J-gaming.  

But ok, I'll just stick with the initial point then, you don't have numbers to work off of because his JRPG list is filled with things that have absolutely no defining RPG mechanics and is useless for a JRPG discussion.  Impressive as the work he put into is, it's all moot if it isn't accurate.

Okay, but did you check to see if he used the same metric in the PS3 list?

It doesn't matter what you prefer bottom line, what matters is that his list is meaningful. And if he considers Zelda an RPG (some do), so long as he's being consistent it's okay.

Sure, for the strict topic of j-rpg I'd agree with you he should just include games that are true RPGs. But when it comes to the validity of his list, if he considers a game or another an RPG when there is a level of grey-zone (Zelda is renouned for it), as long as he's consistent it's not fair to just brush it off.

So, did you see any similar games (like Zelda and Harvest Moon) in the PS3 list?

EDIT: I guess the follow-up question is, are there any games not in that PS3 list that he could've included using the metric he used for the Wii?

If he's being inconsistent, then strip off the ones you disagree with and you still get a decent list. We can then argue whether he's right or wrong. Or we can do like Oni did and make our own lists.

I ran through both lists, the PS3 list is missing three like he mentioned, has three games that aren't really going to come out any time soon if ever (FFX HD, FFV13, Persona 5) as well as several non-RPGs but not nearly the number as the Wii.   

So you want the list to be meaningful?  I don't see how it can be, being consistantly wrong in how you make a list of games for a specific genre means that it's useless because unless both systems have the same number of games that look like but aren't RPGs then the mistakes don't cancel each other out.  A list of all 3rd party titles developed in Japan would be meaningful because his genre definitions wouldn't come into play, but that's not the case here.

What I was trying to say was that, if he has a different definition of a genre, then as long as he's consistent you can't argue its correctness. Here again, if he includes yet to be released games in all his lists, then he's being consistent, and you need to go by his metric.

If you wanted a list to your liking, then maybe you need another one. If you want one that's about j-RPG-esque games, including yet to be released titles, then his list is for you.

All I'm saying is that as long as he's consistent across the board, you can't blame him for being sloppy. But, you can say that it's not the list that suits what you're looking for.

I don't mean to pussy-foot, but I did note that the guy put in time to make that, and I find it unfair to just brush it off like that for whatever non-related reason you might have.

Now ultimately you might disagree with his original j-rpg on Wii being better claim, but you don't need to bash his list in the process.

EDIT: To be clear, I did read what you said, but I don't consider 3 items in the list to be a gross mistake. It's probably something he's keeping up to date.

@Tor. Ultimately, to consider his list really bad, you'd have to find many cases where he's being inconsistent. Like, I'm not too familiar with the games lists, but take a western game like Darksiders. If there are japanese games like Zelda that he didn't include in his PS3 list, as compared to those he missed for the Wii, then yeah there's an issue.

What a surprise. Thread goes like shit and mods in the moon.

I'll explain that to you. To demonstrate how many good Third Party titles there are out there, i'll to do a list of the exclusive Wii games i have that are good. So you can compare First Party to Third Party and see if there's a good amount of 3rd ones comparing to the amount of 1st ones.

You know VGChartz is all about comparisons, yeah, now you get my message?

The Wii has a few third party gems, but the problem is they are so few in a sea of shit.

Pandoras Tower >>>> The Last Story - pick Pandoras Tower instead

Also you miss out on Little Kings Story and Monster Hunter Tri.