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Slimebeast said:
HappySqurriel said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

 From what we know the Wii U is at best 3 times faster than a X360,


Didn't you and I already have this conversation? You are being patently and willfully disngenuous, here. Cut it out.

We did? I honestly don't remember. And Im sorry if I previously admitted that there's a possibility for the Wii to be more than 3 times faster than a X260. Did I?


In a roundabout way. Remember? Obviously the 360 is only 3 times more powerful than the PS2 or Xbox, based on all those barely-upgraded multiplats it got early on.

Oh, now I remember. I admitted that I erroneously used the upcoming current-gen multiplatform games to the Wii U such as Assassin's Creed and Aliens Colonial Marines as an argument that the Wii U is hardly stronger than the X360. But I believe I also said that I instead was leaning on the rumors that the Wii U is using a GPU equivalent to a Radeon 4850, which is rufly 3 times stronger than the GPU in the X360.

Well, it has been suggested that it was based on the Radeon R700 which was used in graphics cards that had performance as high as 4 times what is seen by the HD consoles. Whatever chip they use will likely have been heavily customized over the past 3 years, will likely be in a system that has been designed to minimize bottlenecks, and software running on it will likely be heavily optimized to maximize performance.

While we can't know how powerful this hardware is without far more information, it is unlikely that it would be less than 4 times the processing power of the current HD console's GPUs.

Your post makes a lot of sense but you just said this discussion is moronic a few posts earlier.

Yes and no ...

I was mostly referring to the "The XBox 720 will be way more powerful than the PS4, which will be way more powerful than the Wii U, even though we know nothing about the XBox 720 or PS4"

There is enough information about the Wii U to speculate about how powerful it will be, even that is mostly speculation about what we believe Nintendo will do rather than any real understanding of the hardware. With what we do know, I think most people would accept that it is possible for the Wii U to be between 2 and 16 times as powerful as the HD consoles, but it is most likely that its performance will be somewhere between 4 and 8 times that of the HD consoles.

In contrast, we know nothing of the PS4 or XBox 720, and I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that either manufacturer decided to release a very modest system to focus on producing an inovative low cost machine; and, at the same time, I wouldn't be too surprised to see either manufacturer produce a high end system either. In my opinion, these companies would favour a lower end system if they were moving forward with a one console strategy (producing a system to target both core gamers and the broader market), and they would choose a higher end system if they were using a two console strategy (re-launch the PS3/XBox 360 as a low end system while using the PS4/XBox 720 to target core gamers). Being that I believe a two console strategy will fail, I'm more inclined to believe they will choose to produce a lower end system. But, regardless of what I believe, this is driven by 100% pure speculation without any information or credible rumours; and it is therefore pretty moronic to argue about it.



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A Playstation magazine says the Ps4 will be more powerful than Xbox ? Wow! Omg! I can not imagine if they would say otherwise ..

Kinect 2.0 is rumored to have its own processor, The original Kinect prototype had its own processor but it was taken away because it wasn't cost efficient.



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Lucas-Rio said:
Sony should not do the same mistakes.

The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox, but coming one year later and with third parties that made lazy ports, it did not show the difference. Sony has to release their console at the same time than Microsoft.


Actually it was not developers making lazy ports, it was the fact that the PS3 took more time to get to par with the 360 that caused a lot of problems for Sony system.  Gamers forget that time is money for a developer.  Trying to get to grips with the PS3 arch and develop a game at the same time caused a lot of problems.  This resulted in developers having to cut features, take shortcuts because the game needs to be released at a certain time.  This was one of the big problems with Sony is that they created this sytem but did not have the tools and libraries needed to make developing gamers easier.  MS on the other hand had the tools, libraries and was willing to send people to help with development issues for the 360.

Sony has since changed their attitude where they built the hardware and left the discovery to the developers.  That type of thinking works when you are on top but when you are trying to compete with another system, you cannot have developers lagging in getting their port to work on your console.



Play4Fun said:
brendude13 said:

Whatever, he said he's going after the hardcore market anyway. He is right to some extent, but as soon as the PS4 and the Xbox 720 launch they will probably switch back to a similar strategy to the Wii.

I would love to see your reasoning on this.

If the PS4 and the Xbox 720 are hardcore consoles like I expect them to be then the Wii U doesn't stand a chance, especially after the reputation they have gained this generation. The PS4 and the Xbox 720 will probably have the hardware and the games that hardcore gamers want, Nintendo will probably panic and switch back to the same strategy they had with the Wii.



Lets just see till they release shall we?



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brendude13 said:
Play4Fun said:
brendude13 said:

Whatever, he said he's going after the hardcore market anyway. He is right to some extent, but as soon as the PS4 and the Xbox 720 launch they will probably switch back to a similar strategy to the Wii.

I would love to see your reasoning on this.

If the PS4 and the Xbox 720 are hardcore consoles like I expect them to be then the Wii U doesn't stand a chance, especially after the reputation they have gained this generation. The PS4 and the Xbox 720 will probably have the hardware and the games that hardcore gamers want, Nintendo will probably panic and switch back to the same strategy they had with the Wii.


Weak reasoning as I expected.

The Wii-U so far seems like it will be just fine in getting third party ports next gen because:

. Nintendo is making it easy to develop for

.Nintendo is using a high-capacity disk

. Nintendo have a headstart to build a core userbase for third party games so that they continue to sell on their console even after PS4/720 release.

. Nintendo is working to make their online greatly improved. They asked third parties what they want in the online system, they are making it open, they are partnering with EA for help in developing it and it seems to have some neat features like video chat, leaderboard, messaging and friendlist display on the controller's screen based on what was shown in Ubisoft's developer round table for Ghost Recon Online. It won't be as good as Xbox Live but indications so far point to it being very good.

. Game Engines are being made to be very scale-able and Wii-U is using modern tech that will be able to do the same things as PS4 and 720 just with less fidelity and scaled down so porting to it next gen won't be a problem unlike this gen with Wii's ancient, archaic hardware.

. The industry has become very multi-platform dependent. Devs are porting to any hardware that can handle their games so they can make as much profit as possible. Even ipads and iphones are getting ports like Dead Space. So unless devs hate money they will port their games to Wii-U next gen since it will be able to handle them.

. Nintendo are obviously willing to make deals with third parties to take advantage of their headstart just like Sony did with PS2 and MS with 360. They are doing the same thing on 3DS with Monster Hunter and layton.

 

Also, MS are clearly interested in appealing to both core gamers and casual gamers. What they want is to get into as many homes to be their entertainment center and they are broadening their with Kinect appeal to do so.



Big deal. PS3 is more powerful than the 360, and look how well that worked out for Sony. Meanwhile last gen, the PS2 was the least powerful of the three (not including Dreamcast), and it showed with its muddy textures and blurry visuals compared to most Xbox/GC games, but still ended up being the best selling console of all time.

This pretty much confirms that PS4 isn't hitting shelves until the latter half of 2014... nobody launches a new console in the spring anymore, those days are over even for Japan.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

disolitude said:
Squilliam said:
So they know the final clock speed and enough specifications 18 months out to make a judgement like that?






scottie said:
The dick measuring competition has begun, despite the fact that both contestants are still denying they have one in the first place...

I see we have an early contender for post of the year.



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Gaming magazines are just gaming's tabloids. PS4 is more powerful than hardware we know absolutely nothing about. Sony will win!

Well the next Xbox will have built in Kinect 2.0! So ha and whatever exclusive processor you have, we'll have a better made!