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rapsuperstar31 said:
Shaun87 said:

So did the Romans, and the Germans, and the French, and the Spanish, should we still be angry with them in 2025???

Is there no immigration in those countries?  The UK wont stay out of Spain for their holidays, and Spain doesn't want you to come visit at least in the volume.  

To be fair, to imply tourism is the same as immigration in the form of asylum-seekers and illegal entries, which is what these people are protesting, is pretty out there.



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Shaun87 said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

Is there no immigration in those countries?  The UK wont stay out of Spain for their holidays, and Spain doesn't want you to come visit at least in the volume. 

There's A LOT of immigration in those countries, why do you think the AFD is getting closer to power in Germany?, or Marine Le Pen nearing the French presidency?.

As for the UK not staying away from Spain, are you referring to those who work hard and pay thousands of pounds to go on a weeks holiday once a year for a break in the sun? Or are you lumping every single British tourist, including myself in with those who just go to get drunk? I for one have always respected countries I visit and have never caused a problem.

I'm not a specialist on the UK, but I can bet that only a small minority of immigrants cause problem there and the the alt-right, with the leniency of the big techs, tries to amplify that or straight up create lies about them just to create panic among the society. It's their modus operandi



rapsuperstar31 said:
JuliusHackebeil said:

I would say that the number one issue of these protesters is immigration. Britain overwhelmingly wants less of it. But three tory governments and a labour one was not able to fulfill the will of the people. Perhaps the elites want to remember now that they all live in a democracy where majority rule ought to be applied.

By the way, I read that 100.000 is underestimating the number of protesters by quite a bit.

You guys literally tried to take over the world a few hundred years ago.  No country wanted you coming into their countries. 

I am not british. But even if I were, I should not be punished for the sins of my forefathers. I did nothing wrong. And they most probably did not either. Colonialism came from a very few, very wealthy people, not from the broad public.

But looking at british colonialism, I think you will find that commonwealth countries are typically far better off than their neighbours. Must have been one hell of an influence the British had (banning the burning of alive widows with their dead husbands in India, food preservation tactics, common law - Indian population and life expectancy increased immensly during their rule, after stagnating for a long time.)

And just because the british had awefull episodes in their history does not mean that anybody else was not at least just as awefull. They were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade - while the African slavers wanted it to continue.

And any of that certainly does not mean that the british people today should not be allowed to have immigration laws to their liking. You can recognise that going into another country and taking control was not good when the british did it. But when people try doing that to the british people, that is okay? Your moral compass really tells you that people who had nothing to do with common, global historic evils should be punished? Than so should any other country - there is not one without blood on their hands.



rapsuperstar31 said:
JuliusHackebeil said:

I would say that the number one issue of these protesters is immigration. Britain overwhelmingly wants less of it. But three tory governments and a labour one was not able to fulfill the will of the people. Perhaps the elites want to remember now that they all live in a democracy where majority rule ought to be applied.

By the way, I read that 100.000 is underestimating the number of protesters by quite a bit.

You guys literally tried to take over the world a few hundred years ago.  No country wanted you coming into their countries. 

Nobody alive today did that or was even born then, and those responsible are long dead.



curl-6 said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

You guys literally tried to take over the world a few hundred years ago.  No country wanted you coming into their countries. 

Nobody alive today did that or was even born then, and those responsible are long dead.

Gaza.... 

Starmer is still joining in on the same old colonial projects, supporting Israel in taking over the ME. 

RAF is complicit in the genocide.



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SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

Nobody alive today did that or was even born then, and those responsible are long dead.

Gaza.... 

Starmer is still joining in on the same old colonial projects, supporting Israel in taking over the ME. 

RAF is complicit in the genocide.

Not to derail the thread but UK being allies to Israel is hardly the UK "trying to take over the world."



JuliusHackebeil said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

You guys literally tried to take over the world a few hundred years ago.  No country wanted you coming into their countries. 

I am not british. But even if I were, I should not be punished for the sins of my forefathers. I did nothing wrong. And they most probably did not either. Colonialism came from a very few, very wealthy people, not from the broad public.

But looking at british colonialism, I think you will find that commonwealth countries are typically far better off than their neighbours. Must have been one hell of an influence the British had (banning the burning of alive widows with their dead husbands in India, food preservation tactics, common law - Indian population and life expectancy increased immensly during their rule, after stagnating for a long time.)

And just because the british had awefull episodes in their history does not mean that anybody else was not at least just as awefull. They were instrumental in ending the transatlantic slave trade - while the African slavers wanted it to continue.

And any of that certainly does not mean that the british people today should not be allowed to have immigration laws to their liking. You can recognise that going into another country and taking control was not good when the british did it. But when people try doing that to the british people, that is okay? Your moral compass really tells you that people who had nothing to do with common, global historic evils should be punished? Than so should any other country - there is not one without blood on their hands.

curl-6 said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

You guys literally tried to take over the world a few hundred years ago.  No country wanted you coming into their countries. 

Nobody alive today did that or was even born then, and those responsible are long dead.

This, but, it's very important to note that the UK for some time now, stopped their geographical empire building because they learned that lesson.

To look at it like, 'well now that it's happening to you, how do you feel', is almost like saying the UK wasn't wrong to begin with and should've, or should continue what they were doing back then.

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Perhaps instead it may be seen by some as kind of a temporary thing and punishment for the past, but even if that were the case, then best to tread lightly, because often enough, when a Country of whites has gotten pushed too far to an extreme, they end up going white supremacy war crazy.



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I thought Brexit was supposed to make their lives better? If anything the British economy went down the shitter afterwards and things have economically things have gotten worse, but sure do blame some small portion of your populace for all the problems. 



I thought the EU believed strongly in democracy and the will of the people. Sure made it difficult for the UK with Brexit then and now.



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Don't have to agree with them but they should be allowed to protest anything peacefully as long as they aren't encouraging others to be violent. It's quite unfair and notes a deep problem when one side can't protest but the other side can protest, and even violently, and be said to be letting out their tensions while if they opposing side of the Goverment are treated as vilians. This is making the situation worse and anti migrant sentiment more pervasive and stronger.