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Mnementh said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Some hints for my 5 first titles of the Top 50:

#50 - A beat'em up with a snarky newscaster
#49 - You can't use the signature moves of the series in this title, but you can use some other person's equipment instead.
#48 - This gory, bloody game is other than for the blood and some yellow texts all in black and white
#47 - Looks a lot like Metroid
#46 - Killing Spree!

#50: One Must Fall: 2097

#46: Unreal Tournament

#50: correct

#46: Yes, but which one in the series?

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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Mnementh said:

#50: One Must Fall: 2097

#46: Unreal Tournament

#50: correct

#46: Yes, but which one in the series?

Uh, without anything added I was referring to the first one, which was simply Unreal Tournament. I see there were later ones refered to by year numbers, but I only played the first.



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my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

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I'm still working on the list.
Will rank games based on what game that had the largest positive impact. I usually rank the best game based on what game I like to play more today.
The change will probably premier older titles, but since I play very few games I do not think it will be that large effect.
If this tradition will be kept for the next year, I instead will rank games based on how much I would recommend them for other players.



mZuzek said:

Mortal Kombat X?

Yes.



 

 

 

 

 

Before I get into clues for my proper top 50, here are some honorable mentions/games that fell off compared to last year.

  • Final Fantasy XII: Zodiac Age (Last year: N/A) 

    • I replayed FFXII for the first time in well over a decade this year, and the Zodiac Age version made a number of excellent changes to the original that almost saw it crack my top 50 for the first time in nearly a decade. With the changes it's genuinely among the best games in the series, though still a shade below the top titles in it. 
  • Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Last year: #47)

    • The highest ranked game from last year to fall off. Still a game I love, but there were simply four new games added to the list that I consider better.
  • God of War 2018 (Last year: #48) & God of War: Ragnarök (Last year: N/A)

    • I see these two titles as fairly similar in quality. God of War had spend a few years near the bottom of my list, and this year the new title simply pushed it off. I played Ragnarök earlier this year, and while I thought it was great, more or less on par with the previous game, it didn't quite reach my top 50.
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd (Last Year: #49)

    • If you've followed my top 50 lists to any extend in previous years, you've noticed the prevalence of this particular series in it. This year, one of them fell off, but the number of The Legend of Heroes games still remains the same as last year. This is the second weakest game in the series that I've played thus far, and one of only two that aren't on my list.
  • A Plague Tale: Innocence (Last year: #50)

    • An excellent game, that like the games above was simply overtaken by other slightly better titles. A prime example of a game that made the best out of its relatively limited budget.


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Okay, this is gonna be a doozy but I've got quite a few games I want to shoutout this year starting with writeups for my 15-ish biggest honorable mentions that includes every game that has appeared on my list previously and any games that I strongly considered for this year. I've also decided to use pictures of my physical games this year whenever possible to make things more personal (and to subtly show off my physical collection). If you're wondering why a few are still in the packaging those are the cases where I've bought a game digitally/on PC but my collector's sense got the better of me later on.

Last Apperance & Highest spot

Write-up

(Box) Art

2020 - #49

Mass Effect 2

Widely regarded as the greatest of the trilogy and my past self agrees, I know I love some of the characters of ME and a lot of the story but the finer details are getting blurry so the whole trilogy is long overdue for a replay. Luckily, I managed to bypass the DRM on my PC copy of Legendary Edition after EA support was unwilling to help me recover my account, so I plan to dive back into Mass Effect again in the foreseeable future which (hopefully) might refresh my love for this game.

2020 - #48, #46, N/A

Tales of Xillia, Graces & Berseria

Though only one is perfect (epic foreshadowing) every Tales game is great so it’s not surprising that my first top 50 had around 5 or 6 entries from the series. Both Xillia and Graces are great games in their own right with solid combat in particular and a few very likeable characters. Meanwhile I was surprised to discover Berseria has never made an appearance on my list despite probably being the game that would round out my top 5 currently. It’s kind of the opposite with the weakest battle system, but great storytelling and characters (and a surprisingly fun card game mini-game). Regardless of the entry this series is among my absolute favorites so even if I can’t list them all they’re still special games to me on some level.

 

2020 - #47

 

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

To me MGS V is a bit of an unfortunate piece of near-excellence with hands down the best gameplay of the series and some powerful moments in its story, but just a bit of a messy structure that makes it feel ironically both unfinished and a bit bloated. It’s still great in many ways though (like the incredible twist or petting the dog) and I would have liked to see the upcoming remake of 3 take inspiration from here rather than sticking too stubbornly to the original.

 

2021 - #49

 

Grand Theft Auto V

Playing Red Dead Redemption II was a good reminder of the positive aspects of Rockstar. They’re honestly a bit of a strange developer that despite not being the greatest game designers managed to capture mainstream audiences with their talent at delivering setting, tone, variety and believable or oddball characters. GTA V certainly delivers on all those fronts and is probably another game I should replay at some point to see if 200 mil copies can be wrong.


 

2022 - #43

Super Meat Boy

As 2D platformers go I still consider Super Meat Boy among the best, but not quite the very best which is probably one of the reasons it’s been pushed down my list over time. It was still addictive and fun though and beating this game might still be among my biggest gaming achievements though and that definitely counts for something.

 

2022 - #40

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

Another game that in many ways is deserving of a spot, but where I’ve just lost a bit of the enthusiasm over time. It feels like a well-made remake could take this to new heights, smothing out some of its flaws, but on the other hand it can’t be denied some of the charm would probably be lost in the process. Either way, even in its now 27-year-old slightly form with a few rough patches, Symphony of the Night is still a suberb metroidvania.

 

2022 - #33

Bioshock Infinite

BioShock Infinite is still my favorite of the trilogy if anybody should ask, but replaying the game last year-ish admittedly revealed some gameplay issues I had forgotten which was enough to push it just barely outside top 50 material for me. Still love the story and premise though and most of how it plays as well.

 

 

N/A

System Shock 2

Then there’s System Shock 2, a game that impressed me much more than it would have and which I’ve been wanting to put on this list every year, but which unfortunately is probably a bit too distant in memory now. It’s also one of the few games I have a shortcut for on my desktop; a little icon of SHODAN which I strongly suspect has developed consciousness and is behind every crash that happens on my machine.

 

2023 - #42

Marvel’s Spider-Man

Marvel’s Spider-Man has been sitting pretty strong on my list and even rose a few spots last year, but I think with a larger focus on games that left a lasting impact this year it just couldn’t quite make the cut. It’s still a blast to play though with its web slinging action and solid storytelling, so I could see it (or its sequel) making a return into my favorites at some point.

 

N/A

Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy

Guardians of the Galaxy is probably the Marvel game I remember more fondly at the moment though. Its gameplay might be rougher around the edges but it’s ability to bring the Guardians (& friends) to life in all their glory and imperfection made it a very positive and memorable experience. But I’m sure our dear host will have more to say on that front.

 

2023 - #24

Super Smash Bros. Melee

Every time I mention Melee I make sure to point out that it’s probably a better game than many higher on my list when viewed in a vacuum. In a world where Melee was the last Smash Bros. entry it could very well still be sitting in the top half of my list because the series is so good and Melee was the first game that reached those heights. It might not be my favorite entry or the one I’ve played the most, but a couple of games high on my list owe a whole lot to this game right here.

 

N/A

Portal

Now we’re getting to the game that are mostly here because they almost made it this year and well Portal is probably not only that but a game that should have made my list in the past. It’s not secret that I like the sequel more for all the extra layers it adds and even funnier writing, but the first Portal is still just so damn good in every way and where the most iconic parts of the series are generally from. While I’ve reused that line before and will do so again it is, indeed, a triumph.


 

N/A

Elden Ring

I’m gonna be honest, other than changing the premise of my list a little bit this year one of the main reason’s I’m not listing Elden Ring is just that it doesn’t need it. This game has hype enough to fill an ocean, and while I loved many parts of the experience, I do feel it’s more swimming pool tier. Either way, while me and the FromSoft designers might never see quite eye to eye, this is the closest they’ve gotten to that in a game that is, if nothing else, an undeniable epic.

 

N/A

Hogwarts Legacy

Playing through Hogwarts Legacy at the time of my last list I really expected it to make it this year, but while the first many hours of this game where indeed magic, I must admit they lost me just a bit towards the end. Still one of my favorites in recent years though and the being able to see Hogwarts brought to life in this way was worth every galleon. The potential is there for an even greater sequel though, but with Warner Bros. doing Warner Bros. things I do unfortunately have my doubts.


 

N/A

Baldurs’ Gate III

I think a massive part of the enjoyability of western RPGs comes from being able to step into a role you like, shape a character you like, make dialogue choices that you like, all so you can sit there going “daamn, I’m pretty cool aren’t I?”. Baldur’s Gate III is one of the most recent games where I got that experience with my dear dragonborn Heinz, and despite my smaller issues with the game that’s the main reason I almost included it this year. Regardless, while there was some bumps along the road, it’s safe to say I had fun with this game and honestly am tempted to one day give it another go either in single or multiplayer.


 

And finally a good old mixed batch of additional honorable mentions:

That's it! I promise I'm done with honorable mentions now (I don't actually promise that)

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50. Kirby and the Forgotten Land (Switch)

One of the few current gen games on my Top 50, Forgotten Land is Kirby's long awaited jump to 3D, sticking the landing 20+ years after his platforming peers.

Most of what this game has to offer is broadly similar to other post-2010 Kirby games. Fun levels, gameplay variety via copy abilities and the gimmick of the day (Mouthful Mode), cute visuals, surprisingly strong music, a bit of subtle storytelling, etc. What gets this game just barely onto this list is how well much of this transitions to the third dimension. The 3D movement and Waddle Dee collecting mechanic does a good job at incentivizing players to explore levels and experiment with the game's mechanics, while never becoming too obtuse.

A lot of the heavy lifting is handled by Kirby's base mechanics. Kirby has had a Guard ability for years, but dodging an attack and entering Witch Time adds a bit of depth to the 3D combat, with interesting scenarios provided by a strong lineup of boss encounters. On the other hand, Kirby's ability to fly has been somewhat nerfed to make 3D traversal a challenge, though it still puts most platforming heroes to shame.

Forgotten Land is also notably willing to try new things, even during the series's 3D transition. Things like a Hub area, collecting Waddle Dees by completing challenges, Treasure Roads, and so on are new elements to the series, and would be enough to make the game feel fresh if this were a 2D game. The spirit of this creativity also shows in the abundance of briefly used mouthful modes and the odd minigame. This game could have been a simple transition to 3D, but it chooses to build upon its legacy in other ways at the same time.

That said, there are a few flaws that hold this game back from being the ultimate Kirby experience. Most notably, the game's roster of copy abilities is shockingly limited (12), especially compared to the previous Star Allies (28). HAL seems to have had trouble translating many classic abilities to 3D, and although Mouthful Mode does revive some of the ideas of abilities like Wheel, Stone, and Water, it falls short of the extensive movesets available to almost every ability in recent 2D entries. Upgrading abilities is another method used to add variety, but it can result in some latter sections of the game becoming too easy, especially for players who take their time collecting treasures and completing challenges.

Regardless, the foundation laid in Forgotten Land is very strong, and if HAL Laboratory builds on this foundation with a deeper pool of abilities, I'm confident that the next Kirby game will be excellent as well.

(I doubt I'll write this much about most games in my Top 50, just because most of them have already had their praises shouted to the heavens.)



@UnderwaterFunktown You're pist is killing this page of the thread . Can you do it one at any time or figure out what's tanking the thread down to 3 minutes to laod...



LegitHyperbole said:

@UnderwaterFunktown You're pist is killing this page of the thread . Can you do it one at any time or figure out what's tanking the thread down to 3 minutes to laod...

I think the site is struggling in general rn, but I scaled down the source images which should help



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UnderwaterFunktown said:
LegitHyperbole said:

@UnderwaterFunktown You're pist is killing this page of the thread . Can you do it one at any time or figure out what's tanking the thread down to 3 minutes to laod...

I think the site is struggling in general rn, but I scaled down the source images which should help

It does, it's down to like 15 seconds now, cheers.