The PS5 PRo is a missed opportunity.

The Launch PS3 was really expensive too. BUT, it could play PS1 & PS2 games next to PS3 games. It replaced all of the earlier systems.

Imagine the PS5 PRO was launched being able to play EVERY generation of PS games. From PS1-PS5. It would need a discdrive standard though, but imagine all PS1-PS5 discs would simply work. Having such a system replacing 30 years of hardware would make me buy this system even at EUR 800.

Yea but the reality is how many people are really like you that Sony should put in the effort to do that? We have the data and most people are playing the same games day after day. Some random GAAS game out there or a sports title, whatever the newest one is.

Hell I'm getting the Pro day 1 and I could care less about playing old games like PS1 and 2. 3 is borderline for me but they've already upgraded Mass Effect so I don't need it. Even during the PS leaks the people paying for the highest tier of PS+ weren't using it to play any of the old game they are porting over that the tier gives you access to.

Kids will never know how amazing it felt to jump from a generation to the next.

And this sort of applies to technology in general. New automobile generations felt like the cars came from a different planet or something. Late 1970's to early 2000's will forever be my golden age.

In addition to @Cerebralbore101 I will add also few things. Online pass was barely a thing, it was there for year at max, other than that you could play everything everywhere 10th hand if you want. Back compat, as I already told, you forget PS1 back compt, it was 100% there. PS1 is old now, but back then it was like playing PS3 games natively now at 100%, so it's a good thing. Also the backcompat with PS1 and PS2 was boosted, you could play all the games with upscaled settings in 1080p, of course it wasn't native 1080p but it was still better image quality than the original ones. Also I've installed many and many games on my PS3 and the only slow thing is in the very few exceptions when the game has many many big patches and you have to wait for hour or two until they are ready, but nowadays this applies for all the games and even last gen too. Other than the patches, PS3 games installed for no more than 5 to 10 minutes which is okay. Also you pointed out having problems with your HDD, because of that you may have had the problems of slower than normal installations. But like @Cerebralbore101 said, just because you hadn't had a luck with your time for 7th gen does not mean it wasn't good or durable. Gen 7 was the worst for durability only for the first 2 years of it's models of consoles, after that, those machines are one of the biggest tanks I've seen. On reddit, ebay and youtube, when I was doing the research of broken systems, there were more cases of broken PS4s and XB1s than later 360 and PS3 models, (excluding the latest cheap toys E model and Super slim, those two were a joke).

Are you refering to the 2011 PSN outage or something else? That outage lasted 23 days. As for it being crap, you could play 64 man Resistance matches. Xbox had nothing like that.

PS3 was rife with online passes? Can you provide ten examples games that had online passes on PS3? I bet online passes represent less than 10% of online PS3 games. But it's your claim, so I'll let you defend it.

I did not know PAL models didn't have BC. I looked into this and it looks like at best they had some crappy emulation solution with firmware 1.70 or something. I don't count that as legit BC. BC means the game runs 95% similar to the original hardware. As a sidenote, I don't consider a lot of PC games to be BC games. Why? Because they depend on heavy emulation to even run games from ancient versions of windows.

Your PS3 controllers and launch model are examples of anecdotal evidence. PS3's were reliable overall and so were the controllers. You personally having bad luck does not change that.

You probably lack an SSD and need to reapply thermal paste to your PS3. That's why GT5 takes so long. At least from disc. If you are trying to install patches from online then just be thankful Sony hasn't pulled the plug on that. Online support was probably faster back in the day.


Your final paragraph is nothing but anecdotes.

Of course I lack an SSD in my PS3, they didn't exist yet back then...

But it's not just the HDD speed. PS3 does sequential patching, download patch, copy whole game, apply patch, repeat. The more patches, the longer it's going to take and GT5 and GT6 had tons of patches. Online support wasn't faster either, however internet was slow in general.

The PS3 was not reliable, "The various fat models had failure rates ranging from 5-20%. The slims have a failure rate of around/under 1%". Sure the slim still works, so does my PS2 and GameCube. I never had as much stuff break on me as during gen 7.

Yet I wouldn't go back to it for gaming.

Kids will never know how amazing it felt to jump from a generation to the next.

And this sort of applies to technology in general. New automobile generations felt like the cars came from a different planet or something. Late 1970's to early 2000's will forever be my golden age.

Wow, didn't know you were from the 70s!