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Cerebralbore101 said:
SvennoJ said:

Online was indeed free, but also crap and offline for months after PSN got completely hacked. FTP games are still free to play online, but yes it sucks Sony followed and made paying for online mandatory. However PS3 was also rife with online passes, so it wasn't entirely free to play online. Second hand games you had to buy the online pass separately. (Or to play your disc online on a different account)

Europe models were not full BC, and to reduce price full BC capability was removed. Plus BC was a separate mode without any boost capability like the PS5 now has. I lost my FF12 saves due to a corrupted virtual memory card (I pressed the off button while it was still saving to virtual memory card I guess)
Btw thanks to the PS4 Pro, a lot of PS4 games make more use of PS5' extra power.

My PS3 controllers did break within 2 years. My 2 launch model PS3s did as well after 3 years.

But it did have the cheapest and best blu-ray player for a long time. Early dedicated blu-ray players at the time of PS3 release were slow, cost $2,000 and became obsolete because they couldn't get patched. PS3 did add 3D blu-ray support later through some magic.

PS3 was great, but expensive and had plenty issues. Modern consoles may suck, but try installing a game on PS3 again that had many patches. It takes days to get GT5 fully working again on a PS3 from original disc install... Patching, installing, OS in general, PS3 feels horribly slow nowadays. It's still a great blu-ray player though :)

Let's not glorify gen 7. I had 2x YloD, went through 7 ps3 controllers, 2x RRoD, 360 charge packs failed after 3 years, HDD failure in PS3 (months to redownload my digital games as I was still on a 60GB monthly limit connection), Disc drive failure in the Wii, Charge packs for Wii remotes all failed, Balance board connection failure. Gen 7 has been the worst for durability.

Are you refering to the 2011 PSN outage or something else? That outage lasted 23 days. As for it being crap, you could play 64 man Resistance matches. Xbox had nothing like that.

PS3 was rife with online passes? Can you provide ten examples games that had online passes on PS3? I bet online passes represent less than 10% of online PS3 games. But it's your claim, so I'll let you defend it.

I did not know PAL models didn't have BC. I looked into this and it looks like at best they had some crappy emulation solution with firmware 1.70 or something. I don't count that as legit BC. BC means the game runs 95% similar to the original hardware. As a sidenote, I don't consider a lot of PC games to be BC games. Why? Because they depend on heavy emulation to even run games from ancient versions of windows.

Your PS3 controllers and launch model are examples of anecdotal evidence. PS3's were reliable overall and so were the controllers. You personally having bad luck does not change that.

You probably lack an SSD and need to reapply thermal paste to your PS3. That's why GT5 takes so long. At least from disc. If you are trying to install patches from online then just be thankful Sony hasn't pulled the plug on that. Online support was probably faster back in the day.


Your final paragraph is nothing but anecdotes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/2oouzv/online_pass_list_wiki/
Yeah definitely less than 10% of all games, but no idea how many online multiplayer games there were without these passes.

Was the down time only 23 days? It felt longer! It also broke my daily GT5 lobby racing, that never recovered.

Of course I lack an SSD in my PS3, they didn't exist yet back then...

But it's not just the HDD speed. PS3 does sequential patching, download patch, copy whole game, apply patch, repeat. The more patches, the longer it's going to take and GT5 and GT6 had tons of patches. Online support wasn't faster either, however internet was slow in general.

The PS3 was not reliable, "The various fat models had failure rates ranging from 5-20%. The slims have a failure rate of around/under 1%". Sure the slim still works, so does my PS2 and GameCube. I never had as much stuff break on me as during gen 7.


I still love many things about the PS3. Still use it as a media player, have lots of music videos stored on it from PS3 You Tube (downloaded so all still commercial free!) And the little previews are great, the cross bar OS is still my favorite. And it plays CDs which PS5 can't anymore.
Blu-ray plays great on it, with 7.1 linear PCM 24 bit 192khz audio output.

Yet I wouldn't go back to it for gaming.