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Forums - Sales Discussion - December Circana (NPD) 2023 Thread + Predictions

ShadowLink93 said:


*Estimates, CESA white paper will give us the exact NPD/Circana numbers for 2023 later this year

Top Three Selling Platforms in the U.S per Calendar Year (millions of units)
Note: 1987 - 1993 is data found on Video Game Sales Wiki and may not be completely accurate, 1994 onwards is from NPD

1987
NES - 3.00
???
???

1988
NES - 5.00
???
???

1989
NES - 9.00
GB - 1.50
GEN - 0.50

1990
NES - 7.20
GB - 3.90
GEN - 1.00

1991
NES - 4.40
GB - 2.10
SNES - 2.00

1992
SNES - 4.90
GEN - 4.50
GB - 3.20

1993
GEN
 - 5.50
SNES - 4.40
GB - 3.60

1994
GEN - 3.27
SNES - 2.82
GB - 2.22

1995
SNES - 2.32
GB - 1.93
GEN - 1.89

1996
PS1 - 1.99
N64 - 1.97
GB - 1.68

1997
PS1 - 5.05
N64 - 4.49
GB - 2.10

1998
PS1 - 7.11
N64 - 4.14
GB - 1.92

1999
GBC - 6.45
PS1 - 5.84
N64 - 3.54

2000
GBC - 6.82
PS1 - 3.25
N64 - 2.53

2001
PS2 - 6.18
GBA - 4.75
GBC - 2.95

2002
PS2 - 8.39
GBA - 6.94
XB - 3.17

2003
GBA - 7.78
PS2 - 6.31
GCN - 3.27

2004
GBA - 7.08
PS2 - 4.68
XB - 4.01

2005
PS2 - 5.51
GBA - 4.37
PSP - 3.63

2006
NDS - 5.32
PS2 - 4.84
X360 - 3.90

2007
NDS - 8.43
Wii - 6.29
X360 - 4.62

2008
Wii - 10.17
NDS - 9.95
X360 - 4.74

2009
NDS - 11.19
Wii - 9.59
X360 - 4.77

2010
NDS - 8.58
Wii - 7.07
X360 - 6.76

2011
X360 - 7.28
Wii - 4.53
PS3 - 4.52

2012
X360 - 5.30
3DS - 3.63
PS3 - 3.41

2013
3DS - 3.81
X360 - 3.07
PS3 - 2.18

2014
PS4 - 4.68
XBO - 4.37
3DS - 2.57

2015
PS4 - 5.72
XBO - 4.93
3DS - 2.40

2016
PS4 - 5.10
XBO - 4.73
3DS - 2.49

2017
PS4 - 5.42
NSW - 4.87
XBO - 4.28

2018
NSW - 5.64
PS4 - 5.29
XBO - 4.36

2019
NSW - 6.48
PS5 - 3.83
XBO - 3.04

2020
NSW - 8.98
PS4 - 2.07
PS5 - 1.96

2021
NSW - 7.61
PS5 - 4.28
XBS - 3.73

2022
NSW - 5.83
PS5 - 5.66
XBS - 4.48


2023
PS5 - 6.83*
NSW - 4.80*
XBS - 3.88*

Great work as usual.

Would you have the SW sales per year for PS4 and PS5 in Japan?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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@ShadowLink93

You have PS5 where it should be PS4 in 2019.



ShadowLink93 said:


*Estimates, CESA white paper will give us the exact NPD/Circana numbers for 2023 later this year

Top Three Selling Platforms in the U.S per Calendar Year (millions of units)
Note: 1987 - 1993 is data found on Video Game Sales Wiki and may not be completely accurate, 1994 onwards is from NPD

1987
NES - 3.00
???
???

1988
NES - 5.00
???
???

1989
NES - 9.00
GB - 1.50
GEN - 0.50

1990
NES - 7.20
GB - 3.90
GEN - 1.00

1991
NES - 4.40
GB - 2.10
SNES - 2.00

1992
SNES - 4.90
GEN - 4.50
GB - 3.20

1993
GEN
 - 5.50
SNES - 4.40
GB - 3.60

1994
GEN - 3.27
SNES - 2.82
GB - 2.22

1995
SNES - 2.32
GB - 1.93
GEN - 1.89

1996
PS1 - 1.99
N64 - 1.97
GB - 1.68

1997
PS1 - 5.05
N64 - 4.49
GB - 2.10

1998
PS1 - 7.11
N64 - 4.14
GB - 1.92

1999
GBC - 6.45
PS1 - 5.84
N64 - 3.54

2000
GBC - 6.82
PS1 - 3.25
N64 - 2.53

2001
PS2 - 6.18
GBA - 4.75
GBC - 2.95

2002
PS2 - 8.39
GBA - 6.94
XB - 3.17

2003
GBA - 7.78
PS2 - 6.31
GCN - 3.27

2004
GBA - 7.08
PS2 - 4.68
XB - 4.01

2005
PS2 - 5.51
GBA - 4.37
PSP - 3.63

2006
NDS - 5.32
PS2 - 4.84
X360 - 3.90

2007
NDS - 8.43
Wii - 6.29
X360 - 4.62

2008
Wii - 10.17
NDS - 9.95
X360 - 4.74

2009
NDS - 11.19
Wii - 9.59
X360 - 4.77

2010
NDS - 8.58
Wii - 7.07
X360 - 6.76

2011
X360 - 7.28
Wii - 4.53
PS3 - 4.52

2012
X360 - 5.30
3DS - 3.63
PS3 - 3.41

2013
3DS - 3.81
X360 - 3.07
PS3 - 2.18

2014
PS4 - 4.68
XBO - 4.37
3DS - 2.57

2015
PS4 - 5.72
XBO - 4.93
3DS - 2.40

2016
PS4 - 5.10
XBO - 4.73
3DS - 2.49

2017
PS4 - 5.42
NSW - 4.87
XBO - 4.28

2018
NSW - 5.64
PS4 - 5.29
XBO - 4.36

2019
NSW - 6.48
PS5 - 3.83
XBO - 3.04

2020
NSW - 8.98
PS4 - 2.07
PS5 - 1.96

2021
NSW - 7.61
PS5 - 4.28
XBS - 3.73

2022
NSW - 5.83
PS5 - 5.66
XBS - 4.48


2023
PS5 - 6.83*
NSW - 4.80*
XBS - 3.88*

By the end of 2024 the Switch should be able to surpass the PS2 in U.S sales to become the bestselling home console in U.S History and the 2nd bestselling console overall in U.S History only behind the DS. It's inevitable at this point it'll surpass the PS2 but it might be too difficult for the Switch to reach the DS in U.S sales this late in the game. I see the Switch selling around 48-49M in the U.S when all said and done, around 5-4M less than DS.



BraLoD said:

@ShadowLink93

You have PS5 where it should be PS4 in 2019.

Thanks, i'll fix it.



javi741 said:

By the end of 2024 the Switch should be able to surpass the PS2 in U.S sales to become the bestselling home console in U.S History and the 2nd bestselling console overall in U.S History only behind the DS. It's inevitable at this point it'll surpass the PS2 but it might be too difficult for the Switch to reach the DS in U.S sales this late in the game. I see the Switch selling around 48-49M in the U.S when all said and done, around 5-4M less than DS.

I agree, it will just fall short of 50 million.



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Nice position for Niche-Man 2 at Circana Top 20 in 2023 considering that they don't count Bundles.



kazuyamishima said:

Nice position for Niche-Man 2 at Circana Top 20 in 2023 considering that they don't count Bundles.

yup it took tears of  kingdom spot which is insane considering it sold 18 million in 3 months.  



zeldaring said:
kazuyamishima said:

Nice position for Niche-Man 2 at Circana Top 20 in 2023 considering that they don't count Bundles.

yup it took tears of  kingdom spot which is insane considering it sold 18 million in 3 months.  

That is because Nintendo don't give the digital sales =[



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
zeldaring said:

yup it took tears of  kingdom spot which is insane considering it sold 18 million in 3 months.  

That is because Nintendo don't give the digital sales =[

These are the publishers that give digital information. Basically everyone who's anyone except Nintendo being big ol' lame-o's



Zippy6 said:
DonFerrari said:

That is because Nintendo don't give the digital sales =[

These are the publishers that give digital information. Basically everyone who's anyone except Nintendo being big ol' lame-o's

And Larian for who knows why.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."