Like PS4.

Apples and oranges.

1. Nintendo's operating profit in an actual (aligned-ish) similar timeframe (FY2019 Q1) was about 25 billion yen vs Playstation's 52 billion yen. Nintendo's FY2020 Q1 profit was like 5 times higher YOY due in part to the lockdown boom (which other platforms couldn't capitalize on nearly as much) and Animal Crossing's launch/explosion.

2. Playstation's profitability among several other aspects have never been better since PS5 launched despite the economical challenges.

3. Nintendo's real profit driver isn't hardware. It's their 1st party software which annually sell a lot more (twice~ or more) than Sony and retain their prices a lot better. If there is one thing where Nintendo objectively crushes Sony, it's this.

4. Mergers and Acquisition expenses are apparently partly factored into profitability. I'm not sure how this exactly works.

5. Actually-aggressive pricing didn't do shit for the Series S. So much for PS5 facing a much stronger competition compared to PS4! "PS4 only did well because the Xbox One and the Wii U sucked. PS5 is facing much stronger competition" I was told.

PS5's pricing so far isn't aggressive no matter how you spin it. Let me remind you that everyone whined and bitched about the $70/€80 game price, and they whined again (myself included) when the PS5 got a price hike everywhere outside the US, claiming Sony is being super greedy and evil. Funny how quickly the narratives shift!

they will beat PS4, but not by much, 120-130M.

I'm sorry people, but the only opinion that counts is that of the guy who claims to be an analyst and who predicted that the PS4 would never overtake the Wii. I've forgotten his name, but he's a sure bet.

I'd forget their name too! I mean PS4 not being able to outsell the Wii was a rather common sentiment until like early 2018.

The PS4 was only a second to the Switch when it comes to underestimation and embarrassing predictions.

Time to renew the thread!
Vote and post if you expectations have moved.

Still sticking with my expectation of roughly the same as the PS4

How are people thinking it won't outsell the PS4? It's selling as well as the PS4 did the first 3 years even with supply issues and no permanent price drop. It will most likely have a longer lifespan than the PS4. It will have a new main GTA game

PS5 is about to take over PS4 launch aligned and Xbox hardware this year has been a disaster despite actually releasing some games this year unlike last year. The PS5 is looking to be more dominant than the PS4 was so I'm seeing it breaking the 120m mark. If this generation lasts a year longer than the previous one as has been suggested then the 130m mark shouldn't be a problem either.

2027 gen end = 120m-130m
2028 gen end = 130m-140m

They're my rough estimates currently.

I'm surprised that it's still selling quite well despite the pricing fuckery (I don't care anymore if it's Sony's greed or inflation and what have you is causing this). Right now I think 120-130 million units is the safest bet, but I'm gonna have to wait and see how the market will react to the "Slim" revision. At the prices they're asking, it's hard not to see PS4 outpacing it in the near future... hopefully that would be the point it gets a permanent price drop as opposed to another damn hike!