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the-pi-guy on 17 July 2026
EricHiggin said:

Wrong. Nin Wii was very successful. Where was the PS Wii equivalent? What about (the lack of) instant social media communication back then?

Video games were never a dying category. Nintendo kept investing in a platform that is pretty much their product, and is widely successful. That's not the case for physical media. 

EricHiggin said:

Wrong again. SNY wasn't in the same overly dominant position when they first tried to shut the PS3 Store down. Jim Ryan was also still in charge.

Sony wasn't in a dominant position in 2021?

Even if so, Xbox is mostly digital too right now. 

EricHiggin said:

If the majority, more so being casuals, have switched over to digital, how are you going to convince them to stop buying digital and go out and buy physical instead when SNY has told everyone they're ditching physical come 2028?... You'd be buying a dead format. Nobody is going to do that. 

However, those that buy physical, lots or little, who understand the many negative consequences of this, can boycott physical all at once, and it will show up like a sore thumb since that crowd is larger than SNY is leading people to believe. Add to that again of course, heavy, consistent, social media bombardment. If SNY is too blind or to stupid to notice or understand what it means then let them eat cake. Let them find out the hard way.

Heck maybe SNY is once again arrogant enough to think they can get away with the console curse of three's this time since they've got a handheld on the way...

That's kind of the problem. Most people aren't buying digital, and Sony thinks physical is pretty inconsequential. 

And you'd just be proving them right.

Physical isn't that big. It's down to about 10% of the market on PS5. A lot of those people are just going to switch to digital copies, that Sony gets way better margins on. Even if 50% of people stop buying physical, Sony doesn't care. That's what they're hoping for.  

If you want to prove Sony wrong, you need to do what they won't expect, which is buy *more* physical games.  

And yes, Sony is being remarkably arrogant. Apparently they don't even think they need to talk to consumers about this. 



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twintail on 18 July 2026

I wonder if Sony will try to position a PS Portal successor as the low-end for PS6. A streaming only device. But it would only make sense if they allowed all PS+ tiers to utilise the feature, and for digital purchases even for non-PS+ users.

Console is high-end. The handheld sitting below that. Then streaming only as the low-end (even if not handheld form).

Unfortunately the price components is going to force PS6 to be priced out of the range of most people, so I do have to wonder what choices are available to them besides that.



EricHiggin on 20 July 2026
the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

Wrong. Nin Wii was very successful. Where was the PS Wii equivalent? What about (the lack of) instant social media communication back then?

Video games were never a dying category. Nintendo kept investing in a platform that is pretty much their product, and is widely successful. That's not the case for physical media. 

EricHiggin said:

Wrong again. SNY wasn't in the same overly dominant position when they first tried to shut the PS3 Store down. Jim Ryan was also still in charge.

Sony wasn't in a dominant position in 2021?

Even if so, Xbox is mostly digital too right now. 

EricHiggin said:

If the majority, more so being casuals, have switched over to digital, how are you going to convince them to stop buying digital and go out and buy physical instead when SNY has told everyone they're ditching physical come 2028?... You'd be buying a dead format. Nobody is going to do that. 

However, those that buy physical, lots or little, who understand the many negative consequences of this, can boycott physical all at once, and it will show up like a sore thumb since that crowd is larger than SNY is leading people to believe. Add to that again of course, heavy, consistent, social media bombardment. If SNY is too blind or to stupid to notice or understand what it means then let them eat cake. Let them find out the hard way.

Heck maybe SNY is once again arrogant enough to think they can get away with the console curse of three's this time since they've got a handheld on the way...

That's kind of the problem. Most people aren't buying digital, and Sony thinks physical is pretty inconsequential. 

And you'd just be proving them right.

Physical isn't that big. It's down to about 10% of the market on PS5. A lot of those people are just going to switch to digital copies, that Sony gets way better margins on. Even if 50% of people stop buying physical, Sony doesn't care. That's what they're hoping for.  

If you want to prove Sony wrong, you need to do what they won't expect, which is buy *more* physical games.  

And yes, Sony is being remarkably arrogant. Apparently they don't even think they need to talk to consumers about this. 

-Games aren't dying, it's just that digital is seemingly becoming more popular than physical. Hence Wii more popular than PS3. So why no PS Wii then?

-9th gen launched late 2020, so no, SNY was not in the same overly dominant position they are now. XB has been trying this since 2013 and it was the first knife of a thousand and the brand has slowly been bleeding out since.

-Wrong. Most casuals won't go to that extent. They may buy a physical copy here or there, but they're not going to inconvenience themselves all the time, from their point of view. It's basically up to the semi hardcore casuals and the hardcore audience to use their money to do the talking.

A very clear and large drop off in physical sales, following all this backlash, while the backlash continues, is more than enough to get SNY's attention. It will let them know that their foundational fans will not put up with it and will not cheerlead and back PS products going forward. Knowing what that could mean for the PS6 launch should make SNY very nervous. If it doesn't, or SNY doesn't react whatsoever to the physical sales tanking all of the sudden, while digital sales don't increase at all, then so be it. Let PS6 bomb so hard that it makes PS3 flex.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

twintail on 21 July 2026

Anyone played Cross Code or Psi Ops?

Thinking of playing the former and buying the latter.



the-pi-guy on 22 July 2026
EricHiggin said:

-Games aren't dying, it's just that digital is seemingly becoming more popular than physical.

That's the point....  
EricHiggin said:

-Hence Wii more popular than PS3. So why no PS Wii then?

EricHiggin said:

-9th gen launched late 2020, so no, SNY was not in the same overly dominant position they are now. XB has been trying this since 2013 and it was the first knife of a thousand and the brand has slowly been bleeding out since.

Sony has been in a very dominant position basically the entire time. 

EricHiggin said:

-Wrong. Most casuals won't go to that extent. They may buy a physical copy here or there, but they're not going to inconvenience themselves all the time, from their point of view. It's basically up to the semi hardcore casuals and the hardcore audience to use their money to do the talking.

I didn't say anything about casuals vs hardcore? 

EricHiggin said:

A very clear and large drop off in physical sales, following all this backlash, while the backlash continues, is more than enough to get SNY's attention. It will let them know that their foundational fans will not put up with it and will not cheerlead and back PS products going forward. Knowing what that could mean for the PS6 launch should make SNY very nervous. If it doesn't, or SNY doesn't react whatsoever to the physical sales tanking all of the sudden, while digital sales don't increase at all, then so be it. Let PS6 bomb so hard that it makes PS3 flex.

It would send Sony the message that people aren't investing in a dying platform and they're transitioning to digital. Which is exactly what they want. 



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VersusEvil on 23 July 2026

inFAMOUS 2 servers are being turned off Aug 31st so get those online trophies in now.



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twintail on 23 July 2026

Can't wait to try out Tokon this weekend. And wolverine is looking very cool!



EricHiggin on 24 July 2026
the-pi-guy said:
the-pi-guy said:
 

If companies worked the way that you think they did, the Vita would have turned out wildly different. Sony assumed that consumers were not interested in handheld games anymore, that they had moved onto mobile. They didn't look at the Vita's worse than expected sales numbers, and assume that they needed to invest more in the Vita. Instead it was the opposite. It was proof to them, that people weren't interested.  

What changed their mind, was the Switch being successful.

Wii was $199 in 2010 and came with motion controls in the box.

PS3 was $299-$399 in 2010. PS Move was a new $100 accessory. That's $399-$499.

Vita was $249-$349 and launched in 2011.

PS4 was $399 in 2014. PS4 PS Move was $100 accessory. That's $499.

PS5 was $399-$499 in 2020. It's $599-$649 now. PS4 PS Move is discontinued but is FC, so $550-$700 ish.

Are you seriously suggesting PS4 was SNY's Wii? I mean it would line up with the rest of your answers so far... Yeesh.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

twintail on 24 July 2026

So I've tried the Tokon beta. Really cool game. Looks and sounds great. However in struggling to get into the gameplay. I feel like a lot of it feels very automatic and even basic moves look a little too flashy for my tastes. Hard to tell how to set up combos.

Maybe I need to fiddle with the options. But col game nonetheless.



BraLoD on 25 July 2026

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