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the-pi-guy 3 days ago
EricHiggin said:

If physical buyers simply keep buying physical, knowing it's going away, that's going to make SNY assume more so that those buyers will mostly transition when the time comes. SNY will very likely think to themselves, 'they know physical is going away, yet they clearly want the content on the disc because they keep purchasing, so they'll likely cave and buy the content digitally come 2028.'

When do you think it has ever worked this way? 

When has a company ever said they're going to invest more in a product that they think is dying, because it died faster? 

If companies worked the way that you think they did, the Vita would have turned out wildly different. Sony assumed that consumers were not interested in handheld games anymore, that they had moved onto mobile. They didn't look at the Vita's worse than expected sales numbers, and assume that they needed to invest more in the Vita. Instead it was the opposite. It was proof to them, that people weren't interested.  

What changed their mind, was the Switch being successful.  

I'm pretty sure the reason why Sony changed course on closing the PS3 store a while back, was because a bunch of people started panic buying.

EricHiggin said:

But what if that doesn't happen come 2028, and instead sales drop (considerably) because (physical) gamers stand their ground? All the while SNY has taken step after step towards ditching physical completely, like what they've done with their disc manufacturing plant and employees recently. SNY won't just be able to turn it all around instantly and have shelves full of discs again in no time.

Why wait to go through all the trouble and pain of that for both SNY and (physical) gamers when those same gamers, could boycott physical media going forward and make it crystal clear to SNY that no disc means no buy, period. That's a message that SNY cannot be dumb enough to mistake, and again, if they are somehow that dumb, then PS gamers en masse might as well abandon ship now before it completely submerges.

Boycott digital copies, buy physical copies instead. That would be showing the company that you won't budge. 

You are basically arguing that if you show a lack of interest in physical media, that Sony will think that there is actually a lot of interest in physical media. 



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G2ThaUNiT 3 days ago

Sony could have passed the cost onto the customer if they’re wanting to increase profit margins that much.

The hardcore crowd would absolutely pay a higher premium for a physical copy.

Hell, that’s already happening with the Switch 2. If you want a physical copy, a lot of times you’re gonna be paying $10 more for a physical copy than other platforms.

If Sony wanted to, they could have charged an extra $10-$20 for a physical copy going forward, and the crowd would still be there. At least to a good extent. Important thing is that the option would still remain.



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BraLoD 3 days ago
VersusEvil said:

With the PS3 store closing I imagine physical games will go up in price. Probably best to start getting in those physical purchases before hand. I also learned today that Folklore has no digital version period. One game I’ve always wanted to play but £100+ is way too high to stomach… 🤔 with my own money.

It does have digital only dlc, so you better grab it if you'll already spend so much on the base game.



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G2ThaUNiT 2 days ago

Looks like Bungie just lost another senior dev in Lars Bakken. He's retiring from the games industry in general. LOVED watching him on Bungie's ViDoc's back in the day. I'm guessing his shares in the company just finished vesting, as he now lists himself as a dog walker on LinkedIn lol. You can only do that if you just got PAID paid!

Best of luck to him on whatever he decides to do next.



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EricHiggin 2 days ago
the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

If physical buyers simply keep buying physical, knowing it's going away, that's going to make SNY assume more so that those buyers will mostly transition when the time comes. SNY will very likely think to themselves, 'they know physical is going away, yet they clearly want the content on the disc because they keep purchasing, so they'll likely cave and buy the content digitally come 2028.'

When do you think it has ever worked this way? 

When has a company ever said they're going to invest more in a product that they think is dying, because it died faster? 

If companies worked the way that you think they did, the Vita would have turned out wildly different. Sony assumed that consumers were not interested in handheld games anymore, that they had moved onto mobile. They didn't look at the Vita's worse than expected sales numbers, and assume that they needed to invest more in the Vita. Instead it was the opposite. It was proof to them, that people weren't interested.  

What changed their mind, was the Switch being successful.  

I'm pretty sure the reason why Sony changed course on closing the PS3 store a while back, was because a bunch of people started panic buying.

EricHiggin said:

But what if that doesn't happen come 2028, and instead sales drop (considerably) because (physical) gamers stand their ground? All the while SNY has taken step after step towards ditching physical completely, like what they've done with their disc manufacturing plant and employees recently. SNY won't just be able to turn it all around instantly and have shelves full of discs again in no time.

Why wait to go through all the trouble and pain of that for both SNY and (physical) gamers when those same gamers, could boycott physical media going forward and make it crystal clear to SNY that no disc means no buy, period. That's a message that SNY cannot be dumb enough to mistake, and again, if they are somehow that dumb, then PS gamers en masse might as well abandon ship now before it completely submerges.

Boycott digital copies, buy physical copies instead. That would be showing the company that you won't budge. 

You are basically arguing that if you show a lack of interest in physical media, that Sony will think that there is actually a lot of interest in physical media. 

Wrong. Nin Wii was very successful. Where was the PS Wii equivalent? What about (the lack of) instant social media communication back then?

Wrong again. SNY wasn't in the same overly dominant position when they first tried to shut the PS3 Store down. Jim Ryan was also still in charge.

If the majority, more so being casuals, have switched over to digital, how are you going to convince them to stop buying digital and go out and buy physical instead when SNY has told everyone they're ditching physical come 2028?... You'd be buying a dead format. Nobody is going to do that. 

However, those that buy physical, lots or little, who understand the many negative consequences of this, can boycott physical all at once, and it will show up like a sore thumb since that crowd is larger than SNY is leading people to believe. Add to that again of course, heavy, consistent, social media bombardment. If SNY is too blind or to stupid to notice or understand what it means then let them eat cake. Let them find out the hard way.

Heck maybe SNY is once again arrogant enough to think they can get away with the console curse of three's this time since they've got a handheld on the way...



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PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

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PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

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VersusEvil 2 days ago

Two games that you won’t be able to 100% come 2027.

Enslaved Odyssey to the West - the Perfect 10 DLC is not available in the UK. You can grab the premium edition that’s also not in the UK physical or digitally (coz DLC by itself is region locked) from the US store for $20.

Alice Madness Returns - the first game is a free download that’s needed for the full 100%.



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Leynos 2 days ago
G2ThaUNiT said:

Looks like Bungie just lost another senior dev in Lars Bakken. He's retiring from the games industry in general. LOVED watching him on Bungie's ViDoc's back in the day. I'm guessing his shares in the company just finished vesting, as he now lists himself as a dog walker on LinkedIn lol. You can only do that if you just got PAID paid!

Best of luck to him on whatever he decides to do next.

Aka they let him resign or be fired.



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G2ThaUNiT 2 days ago

Marathon just lost its Game Director.



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BraLoD 2 days ago

Either Marathon is doing a complete 180° or the game is soon to be canned, there is no other option after the game director is out while the game is bombing.



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VersusEvil 2 days ago

Sonys on a generational run of bad PR right now so layoffs are probably due. Start with Bungie, just rip the band aid off and close em.



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