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Will PS5 outsell PS4

Yes 23 23.71%
 
No 74 76.29%
 
Total:97

From industry analyst Daniel Ahmed

He says 117.2 million but the last Official number was 117.00m as of March 31, 2022.

From Sony Interactive entertainment Buisness data and sales page, just says more than 117m but no mention of 117.2m.

https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data.html

     *Sales data on PlayStation®Vita are not disclosed

So PS4 is now dead in terms of hardware sales and will not be surpassing GB/GBC and finishes as the 4th best selling videogame hardware ever

(soon to be 5th). It was a gigantic success and put the Xbox brand in it's place after being challenged by the XB360 in the prior generation.

PS3's peak year was 14.30m, the PS4 had five years higher and outsold it by around 30m units.

Last edited by ShadowLink93 - on 28 August 2022

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ShadowLink93 said:

He says 117.2 million but the last Official number was 117.00m last quarter.

I think Sony will report 117.1M next quorter ending september 30th (cuz they obviously didn't reach that number till 30th of june.

And maybe they will announce finally 117.2M shipped after the holidays (till 31st of december) which will be final official PS4 sales figure.



Collapsed way faster than anyone expected beforehand.



Kakadu18 said:

Collapsed way faster than anyone expected beforehand.

Which is even crazier considering the shortages for the new systems...



The site is so biased, that a lot of people expect the PS5 to sell less than the PS4, even if Sony themselves said they expect PS5 shipments to surpass PS4 shipments (launch aligned) in 2023.

And Sony themselves killed the PS4, they are the only ones to made it collapse.



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kazuyamishima said:

And Sony themselves killed the PS4, they are the only ones to made it collapse.

Just like the PS3.



yo33331 said:
kazuyamishima said:

And Sony themselves killed the PS4, they are the only ones to made it collapse.

Just like the PS3.

The PS3 had great legs, it's strong tail got it passed the XB360.



ShadowLink93 said:

The PS3 had great legs, it's strong tail got it passed the XB360.

7M after it's successor launched isn't really great .. and a little better legs than PS4 don't make it great. Sony killed it too. If they wanted they could do so the PS3 could sell at least 15M after PS4 launch. But they didn't ..

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ironmanDX said:
Kakadu18 said:

Collapsed way faster than anyone expected beforehand.

Which is even crazier considering the shortages for the new systems...

Well if anything I think the shortages and high shipment cost actually were part of the reason the PS4 died so quickly, as Sony decided to focus all their production/shipment efforts towards the PS5. If there had been plenty of PS4s available then it could probably have benefited from the newer systems being so hard to get, but that wasn't really the case.



Major Switch Titles Launch Aligned

2022 predictions:

  • Switch - 24m
  • PS5 - 15.5m
  • Xbox Series - 10m

kazuyamishima said:

The site is so biased, that a lot of people expect the PS5 to sell less than the PS4, even if Sony themselves said they expect PS5 shipments to surpass PS4 shipments (launch aligned) in 2023.

And Sony themselves killed the PS4, they are the only ones to made it collapse.

I'm sure many of them have had a look at the statistics and see that the chances that the PS5 outselling the PS4 would break some established trends.

Playstation + Xbox sales taken together have always amounted to ~175M each gen:

  1. PS2+Xbox: 183M
  2. PS3+360: 173M
  3. PS4+XBO: 168M

Meaning if the Xbox is stronger, then the Playstation sells less as a result. Since the XS is selling much better than it's direct predecessor, unless this gen breaks with the model it established the 3 previous generations, PS5 should sell less than the PS4 did.

That being said, there are some unknowns that could alter this a bit: How long this generation will be can have an effect for instance, if there will be some mid-gen upgrades like the PS4 Pro last gen, and so on. So far, noting shows that this gen will deviate from the previous generations, but time will tell if this will stay the same.

Another thing to note is that the Playstation + Xbox total has been dropping a bit each generation. This trend will have to be reversed for there to be any chance for the PS5 to outsell the PS4 since the XS will almost certainly outsell the XBO.