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LudicrousSpeed said:

Or Xbox Ones
Or Series X
Or Switch (regular or OLED)
Or basically any good GPU



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d21lewis said:

If I were a major company, I'd drop the PS4 and XBO, too. Every PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series is 99% backwards compatible. Making more of the 8th gen consoles would be a bad move, imo.

Sadly, this cuts the legs out from under PS4 which, if the price dropped low enough, could have been in the conversation for top selling console of all time.

Hypothetically if there were no shortages of any platform, it seems that 9th gen hardware demand is so great that Xbox One and PS4 was have saw a massive decline regardless of any realistic price drop.

Heck, its almost hard to believe Series S could be $199 in the future. Its just not a price point they aim for anymore.



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Zippy6 said:
leo-j said:

Not in November. Sony stock seems to have barely lifted for the month due to production issues. While Xbox series S saw a significant up tick. The point isn’t Xbox, the point is they used to produce millions of consoles in November with ps4 and ps3/psp and are barely doing over half a million .

I mean this is nothing new, we've known about the situation forever.

The GPU market has literally been dead for coming up to 2 years now.

GPU market is dead as you say, had to buy a pre-build just to get a 3070 (a nice noctua/asus one). Giving my brother some of the parts, I'll have to wait for some DDR5.



Zippy6 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Or Switch (regular or OLED)

Is Switch stock really that bad in other places? Normal Switch has been in stock most of the holiday season in UK and the OLED has been in stock many times too. Everytime someone says this I check amazon UK and yet again they're in stock.

Switch is in stock at £255 on Amazon, can get delivered on the 16th (below RRP)

Switch OLED is in stock at £305 on Amazon, can get delivered on the 16th (BELOW RRP)

Both are £5 less than the RRP so they're not even charging full price for them.

Just bizarre to me that the situation is so different in the UK apparently.

My Amazon (US) is showing delivery early January if I ordered either sku of the OLED today (posted elsewhere in this thread).  I've been in Targets and Best Buys recently and never see them on shelves.  The websites are stating that some stores in my area have them.  I just haven't seen any in the wild recently (not that I'm actively looking for one, since I have a Switch already, but I do notice the empty case display while looking at the games aisle).  In any event, the Switch has been on the market since 2017, and has sold to 97 million consumers already.  On any given day, there would be 82 million less people looking for one than a potential PS5 customer.  So, you would expect the Switch to have plentiful stock everywhere.  That it's not in some places, like the major metropolitan area I live in, shows a combination of Nintendo also struggling with the chip shortage, and the device remaining in high demand over 4 years after release.  I think that sometimes gets taken for granted when comparing Switch stock to devices that just began selling 1 year ago.



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Zippy6 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Or Switch (regular or OLED)

Is Switch stock really that bad in other places? Normal Switch has been in stock most of the holiday season in UK and the OLED has been in stock many times too. Everytime someone says this I check amazon UK and yet again they're in stock.

Switch is in stock at £255 on Amazon, can get delivered on the 16th (below RRP)

Switch OLED is in stock at £305 on Amazon, can get delivered on the 16th (BELOW RRP)

Both are £5 less than the RRP so they're not even charging full price for them.

Just bizarre to me that the situation is so different in the UK apparently.

I'm from Brazil and I can't remember the last time Switch was out of stock here 

Series S was readily available for months, but since last month I couldn't find them anymore on Amazon

Series X and PS5 though... I've never saw any stock for them 



Zippy6 said:

It is weird that they are releasing GT7/Horizon 2/GoW2 all on PS4 but at the same time aren't making PS4's at all.

I haven't seen a new PS4 in stock in the UK for many many weeks, I guess they are just having to throw everything at PS5 production. But I don't know.

PS4 could sell more if they actually shipped more I'm sure of that.


Though story is same for Xbox One, you can't find them in the UK anymore either.

The PS4 versions are catering for the existing PS4 gamers not to worried about new ones.

Very early in the PS5's history they ended certain Japanese made PS4 models and moved there Japanese PS4 assembly lines that while not the biggest in volume are Sony's and apparently the fastest available anywhere being fully robotic and taking just 30 seconds to fully assembled a console from start to finish with a line just 20 metres long with the only human involvement occurring at the end of the line with post assembly packaging that takes another 30 seconds.

Incidentally those facilities were initially created for the PS1 and now with the PS5 being assembled there they have now assembled every gen home console .



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Yeah, PlayStation seems to be hurting the most when it comes to stock shortages. I see Switch and Series S readily available on pretty much every major online and brick and mortar retail store. As far as I can tell PS5, Series X, and of course the RTX 3000 series cards are still very hard to get ahold of.



the-pi-guy said:

Microsoft has been moving more production over to the Series S. I've noticed the ratio has changed from launch. And it's a lot easier to make Series S's. Microsoft can make almost twice as many Series S as Series X with the same amount of material.

The Series S has generally been easy to get throughout the past year. Whereas the PS5 and Series X sell out in minutes or seconds, the Series S has generally been in stock for dozens of hours at a time. Demand for the Series S has just been much lower, but it's a great holiday console.
So lower demand + increased production on Series S = greater availability.

MS has stopped making Xbox One, and Sony has stopped making PS4's to prioritize the newer consoles. They want to transition people onto the next console gen.

Even if MS can't buy more wafer allocation:

MS can just notify TSMC that they want less XBSX wafers made, and more XBSS. This would allow MS to make way more (XBSS) dies overall.

MS very well may have already made that decision leading up to the holidays, to make sure they had as much stock available as possible.

Having XBSS be reasonably available on the shelves is better than having extreme limited availability for both XBSS and XBSX.

SNY can't do squat about PS5 chips because there is only one chip design. All they can try to do is buy more wafer allocation, if they can.

PS4 chips are made on a different node, so it doesn't impact PS5 chip production at all.

Not sure about the assembly line though. Less PS4's could mean more PS5's, maybe.



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PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

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PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

I still haven't seen a PS5 at a regular store yet. Only a few for double or close-to-double the SRP at second-hand stores. It's crazy.



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