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SvennoJ said:
Wman1996 said:

Game Pass is a win for the industry. Services like it make gaming more affordable than ever. But go ahead and buy 3 physical new releases a year for $60 a piece and act like you're getting such a better experience. You're probably not.

Game Pass is a win for the consumer, for now. It's good for the industry as long as MS keeps subsidizing it.

However, I paid $120 for FS2020, been playing it almost daily for 15 months now and will keep playing it for as long as it sticks around. 15*15 = $225, already saved $105 buy buying the premium deluxe version day one (Gamepass doesn't have the premium deluxe version btw. It's an expensive upgrade $85 and you still lose access to that when cancelling gamepass)

I've played other games of course, none are on gamepass, most I wanted physical editions to keep.

It's a great deal if you like the library on offer and play a little bit of a lot of games. I play a lot of a few games and GP doesn't overlap much with my tastes. Not a great deal in that case.

Anyway those looking foolish are those that have to promote/defend game pass at every twist and turn. Why so insecure when it's such a great service. It's starting to become a religion at this point. I get it, it's Q4, XBox time to shine, two of its most popular games just came out. Enjoy it instead of worrying about whether everyone likes GP yet.

I might pick up Halo Infinite after co-op is finished and I can get my hands on a Series X slim. No rush as I only want to play local co-op anyway. It will be the physical release however, definitely looks like one to keep. After finishing the digital version of TLOU2 yesterday I'll be buying the physical version to keep. I bought it digitally because of the pandemic, but regret that now. Amazing game.

No. It's the vocal few who make it an issue when ever it gets brought up. Most people have zero issues with the service and if they don't use the service, they could care less if someone enjoys talking about it. I mean, this is a video game forum after all, it's kind of what we do. 

That reminds me, we have a sermon this weekend at the House of Game Pass. Phil is going to be making a sacrifice for a glorious Halo launch. You should join, brother. 



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Its funny, i have done the Maths for people on this site since GP was announced. People just don't want to believe it. GP is extremely profitable and MS will never announce its profits directly. They will downplay it to keep the price flexible in the future. On top of that, the GP/Live bundle adds another incentive to get gamer's to pay even more for Live which would be earning a fortune in itself. Two Major services bringing in billions a year is exactly why other companies will be following this eco-system soon.



Wman1996 said:

Game Pass is a win for the industry. Services like it make gaming more affordable than ever. But go ahead and buy 3 physical new releases a year for $60 a piece and act like you're getting such a better experience. You're probably not.

 As a collector. I am as I prefer owning them. I also buy a shit ton more than 3 a year.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

I'm mostly ambivalent toward Game Pass. However, those who don't seem to understand that it's not the best option for everyone can be bloody annoying.



Another great video as always.



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smroadkill15 said:

No. It's the vocal few who make it an issue when ever it gets brought up. Most people have zero issues with the service and if they don't use the service, they could care less if someone enjoys talking about it. I mean, this is a video game forum after all, it's kind of what we do. 

That reminds me, we have a sermon this weekend at the House of Game Pass. Phil is going to be making a sacrifice for a glorious Halo launch. You should join, brother. 

He now, only Sony sacrifices goats to promote a new game :p

I just wonder how much it actually does for less mainstream games. It's like FS2020 is already forgotten again. The GOTY edition just came out with the first huge expansion to almost zero noise, 4 comments...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-19-flight-simulators-competitive-multiplayer-dlc-and-big-free-goty-update-are-out-now
Sure the upcoming Halo release is taking all the attention away but still kinda disappointed how quickly FS2020 sank to the background after all the trouble Asobo and players went through with the XBox release.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1250410
It did bring some players back, on Steam peak of 14K concurrent players, up from 10K the 2 months before. Is there such a stat for the XBox ecosystem? I'm curious what the split is. There should be far more players on the XBox side with gamepass but I can't find any metrics.
I'm sure the unique player count is quite high, yet how many return and actually keep playing the game and bring in revenue on the marketplace.

Anyway, back to testing the Goty edition, DX12 isn't doing well so far, using a lot more VRAM and overall lower fps after the update. DX11 is definitely better for now but a bit more demanding on the CPU since the update.



Leynos said:
Wman1996 said:

Game Pass is a win for the industry. Services like it make gaming more affordable than ever. But go ahead and buy 3 physical new releases a year for $60 a piece and act like you're getting such a better experience. You're probably not.

 As a collector. I am as I prefer owning them. I also buy a shit ton more than 3 a year.

Which is absolutely fine. I dread an all-digital future (though I'm not as anti-digital as some), but it's inevitable. Could be 20 years from now, or 10. But Game Pass makes it far more affordable for players to enjoy games from the last gen, plus some from the current gen and older gens. I would much prefer services like Game Pass exist so people can play more games instead of being limited to purchasing them outright which usually means they can't play as many games due to high costs. 

We now live in a time where most players can easily play about 20 or so games a year without spending a lot of money. And that is a very good thing to me. A lack of gaming subscription services means less affordable ways to play games. 

I've never subscribed to Game Pass, but I understand the appeal. I do have a PS Now subscription.

Last edited by Wman1996 - on 21 November 2021

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pokoko said:

I'm mostly ambivalent toward Game Pass. However, those who don't seem to understand that it's not the best option for everyone can be bloody annoying.

Pretty much. And like you OP states its a subscription service, very much like PS Now, Google Stadia, etc. I think its a great value for the sheer library of new games. Though its not for everyone and people get too worked up about it for and against. For me, I'm wary of more subscription services taking off as we've seen how video games companies act when they have new means of making money. Be it through horse armor dlc's, mtx, online paywalls etc this just looks to be the next logical evolution of that.

Though with GPU I think choice is a good thing and by someone like MS offering a great value service, will spur on others to innovate. I do think think that the constant critiquing on something is a bit much. But also the guys who keep banging on about it likes its the best thing since sliced bread. Its a little like if like people kept calling at how good/bad value Netflix/Disney is. Like who tf cares just watch/sub to what you want or not.

Last edited by hinch - on 21 November 2021

I don't hate Game Pass. It's just not for me; I prefer to own my games.

People also often act like its this megaton killer app that's going to turn the tides of the console war, when the data says that simply isn't the case.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.