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Its funny, i have done the Maths for people on this site since GP was announced. People just don't want to believe it. GP is extremely profitable and MS will never announce its profits directly. They will downplay it to keep the price flexible in the future. On top of that, the GP/Live bundle adds another incentive to get gamer's to pay even more for Live which would be earning a fortune in itself. Two Major services bringing in billions a year is exactly why other companies will be following this eco-system soon.