It's an out of the box feature for ps5 games. Ghost of Tsushima is a ps4 game. If you read the links, they did not start working on haptic feedback etc until after the game was released. Those are new features for a PS5 remake of the game.

So yes, you are correct that all ps5 games need to sell for $70
- PS4 game, $60 no haptic feedback
- PS5 game, $70 includes haptic feedback and other extras

It's the same everywhere else. You can't buy the standard version of FS2020 and then claim the premium content for free.

Anyway, we disagree.

Thats a nice amount, I hope it has strong story content though

This bolded point really shouldn't matter. Like, at all. This mentality that 'they made the content prior to release, therefore you deserve it with the game' mentality is just, so, so, SO wrong. It's the worst type of entitlement, one that's so prevalent online, it seems. 

WE'll use the fighting game analogy thingie with I think Street Fighter and the DLC already being on the disc. Like, if they create a game, put 24 characters in the base game, and feel that the price is worth 20 characters and lock the others behind a paywall...that's their decision. Nobody's entitled to it. If that's what they feel their time is worth, then it's only your job to agree or disagree. However, disagreement doesn't mean we need those extra four characters. Again, luxury items are not essentials. If you don't like the business practice...don't buy it. That's what's Azza's doing. I mean, he's also trying to turn it into some silly crusade, but still. 

I am a writer. I write short stories (mostly fantasy erotica, if you must know), and if I decide to write 2,000 more words than you paid for, that's my decision. I set my prices, but sometimes the actual value changes. Same thing can happen with games. 60-70 bucks for the base price, and it's up to you if you wanna pay for the DLC or if you think the extra content is worth it. 

That was a bad analogy now that I read it back, but the general concept remains the same. It's up to the developer and the publisher and those involved to put a price on their work. It doesn't matter if they made 7 things at once, and give you 5 of those things for the base price and charge you for the other two. That's, like, the core concept of a free market. you're only entitled to what you paid for at the time of purchase. you don't get to say 'oh, but you were also working on that so I Get that, too' or 'oh, you updated the game a year later? I get that version, too', or 'you made more content? I get that, too' or even 'oh, I didn't realize you also were doing this at the same time so I get that too.' All anyone is entitled to is what is offered to you when you buy it. If you buy the game on PS4, with the game's base features and story...that's what you are entitled to. It doesn't matter if they add expansions or make a PS5 version or add gameplay modes, you are not entitled to any of that. sure, there has been a lot of generosity on the part of Sony and Microsoft and others, but the reality is...all of that is predicated on their hopes of fostering good will and loyalty, not obligation. 

People keep getting that part wrong, and it's created quite the toxic situation. 

Oh I agree with you, I only added that part because @Azzanation seems to think the feedback is all there already in the ps4 game and they simply disabled 'HD rumble' to put it behind a paywall. Like offering BC but locking out the final chapter, got to pay extra to finish the game on ps5. And even that would be their choice. (If they want to turn it into an episodic story and charge separately for chapters for example)

Just like DLC, it's more content. Up to the developers to choose what to charge for what.

In the end, the only thing you are 'entitled' to is a working version on PS4 as advertised (if you bought the PS4 version). Hence CP2077 does have the obligation to add free patches and finish the game at no additional cost.

I think the price is to much for a DLC. I haven't played the game yet as I was waiting for my PS5 though so I don't really care either way. I'm just glad I waited. I'll be waiting a while to play all these PS5 games anyways. I'm hoping a PC version gets released.

I think you are clearly misunderstanding me on this one. I am not saying the features existed on release, never did. They implemented the features later and than added a Pay wall which is the exact same thing. You have to pay a fee to unlock content/features even if you own the compatible hardware. That's a paywall. Same shit, different bucket. Its sole reason is to have games played on PS5 cost that premium $70 price tag, otherwise they would have offered it for free.

Nothing against the developers in charging for in game content like expansions either. However those justifying the paywall because someone had to work on it so it deserves a price tag, is no different to Lootboxes, someone had to work on it and create the content inside the lootboxes. People need to start seeing past the boundaries of their favorite companies and look deeper into the tactics these companies are doing. I see it, many others see it, the only ones that don't see it are the fans of these companies and the games. 

This is their reason in asking you to give them another $10, and they will use your favorite toys to convince you. Otherwise you miss out.

Ah, so it is FOMO. I don't agree with the rest. Game play features affecting the entire game are better than story DLC imo, definitely not loot boxes. You still don't see it or refuse to see it as now you're comparing these features with useless cosmetic items from loot boxes.

No, i am saying you are being charged no differently. Justifying features because someone had to work on it is no different to Lootboxes because labor was still required to make them as well. Weather you find it a better deal to someone who might like the idea of Season Passes and extra DLC is all subjective. If you prefer paying more than that's where we agree to disagree. I also don't agree that next gen games should be $70. When these companies continue to make more profits yearly, they want to push that envelope even further and that's where they start losing me.

I prefer people getting rewarded for their work. I never said loot boxes should be free, I just don't like them and don't pay for them. Even for free I don't like them, like the wheelspin mechanic in FH4, cheap game design, not fun. But that's my opinion and I simply steer clear from loot box mechanics. (I wish I could turn off the daily workout wheelspin in GT Sport, so annoying)

So yep, I prefer paying for game play features instead. I would also like to see a fairer distribution of the profits among the workforce, but I don't have anything to say about that. And paying less will not effect the CEO bonus check, it will come out of the low wage group first.

In the end, I don't mind paying extra for quality, CAD 160 for FS2020 is 1000% worth it for me. CAD 90 for quality games, I have no issue with that. But if you have issues with that, stick with game pass.

Patience is a rare virtue these days. I think the price of the XB expandable storage and premium controllers are too much for accessories, though I haven't used either of them. Glad what few of their seemingly worthy games are also available on PC. No patience required for those 'exclusives'.