Well luckily we don't have open borders?

Wow, over 6000 far right hate groups that commit crimes, murders and acts of terrorism?! That's very scary! I hope people recognize much of the real threats has little to do with hate groups. I think most of them just share memes and disagree with left wing ideologies. I mean stats just don't reflect those groups to be a major issue per se. Pretty sure Juggalos are still a hate group by the way.

The problem with Chicago is the crime in general. It would still be a testament to bad leadership regardless what color was committing the crime. Also, anytime they entertain solutions its always neglecting the real problems and blaming other cities/states. I don't wanna talk too much about overall murder statistics, that would be racist to even look at.

Okay, so I'm not living in fear, but I should instead embrace left wing ideas? The left's ideas right now are fear whitey, everything is literally racist and we need more democrats in power to solve all our problems. I could elaborate but I won't. People are more bothered by LGBT ideologies than actual homosexuals, its actually a parody at this point. Again, the open border solution is not beneficial compared to a merit based solution and work visas. Quality of life will decline with this kind of leadership.

Hey, if I'm boring you... I hope you can find a solution. My responses are for my entertainment.

Yeah, 6K, why don't you take it up with the DHS since its that org that believes the greatest risk to your lively hood is the far right hate groups instead of BLM.  Like I stated, the news you get would love to ignore those groups.  Ignore that they even exist.  Ignore that they cause more damage then your average gang in your favorite place Chicago.  Even now you dismiss them because maybe they do not pose a danger to you but they are quite real and if you actually take the time, you will find their is quite a bit of documented examples and listing of the damage they do.  Anyway keep that energy with BLM as your primary go to because they are the current bogie man.

Yes, we all know Chicago has issues, you did not get what I was stating.  No matter how good or bad Chicago is or what's going on, you only concentrate on the negative and when in debates, its always your go to.  It will always be with you "What about Chicago", just like I continue to read from conservative media about black on black murder while it shows White people kill White people more.  The thing is context is always key but when you want to give people something to hate, its always easy to find some example and use that.  Its no different then Trump singling out the one black person in at his rally and then stating "See here, black people love me".

Hmm, so that is your current opinion is that the left fear white people and that everything is racist.  Now what is the policies that are being proposed from this position.  What laws have been brought up into congress or even added to bills that support this particular stance.  If this a particular viewpoint built on what examples.  Let me ask this question, do you believe there is still widespread racism in the US.  I will give you my answer just for reference.  No, there is no widespread racism in the US but there is widespread prejudice within the US which is the real problem.

What ideology that the LGBT community is bringing to the table that people hate so much.  If anything, the only thing I see is that they want equal rights and protection just like any minority group.  I am trying to figure out what are they trying to change that would cause this fear or is it just like anything within the US, if its not the norm then it must be dangerous.

Why you keep bringing up Open boarders.  Can you point to any particular Dem policy that is current or coming that is pushing for open boarders.  The funny thing is when you do a google search on this, the right wing media is littered with such headlines but when you actually read the articles, they do not list one policy that support the position.  Instead its that good old gameplan of fear I was talking about.  Its like that Tucker Carlson video on this thread.  Its not about actually having any proof of something, you just need to say it and then transition to some other opinion article to then claim its a fact.  Lets see the policy for this open boarder you keep talking about.

As to you boring me, well yeah.  I keep hoping you will kick into a new gear and start to back up your opinion with some really good hitting stats but instead its just been pretty much right wing opinion points left and right.  I continue to see if you will still kick into a new gear because I had a whole list of stuff I was going to bring to the table but I have not seen any reason why I should. We cannot seem to get past just pure opinion from you to something more concrete.

Yeah, I believe DHS is full of shit and panders to fools. I don't necessarily consider BLM a significant threat either, although they/it has encouraged people to commit violent crime. Honestly I consider Antifa worse, but I'm not sure how relevant they are at this point. Maybe the news is bored of that stuff since it mostly affects liberal cities.

*Looks at conservative talking points* Uhmmm... I could name numerous other cities that are blue and have exceptionally high murders. However, Chicago blows them all away (get the pun, like a gun).

*Hmm, so that is your current opinion is that the left fear white people and that everything is racist. Now what is the policies that are being proposed from this position.* Yes and yes. The Biden administration was stopped from financially catering to people based solely on ethnicity as well. Also, prejudice and racism are synonyms. So it doesn't make much sense one is widespread but the other is not.

I support equal rights. But I find the LGBT and BLM movements ridiculous. Their sole focus isn't equal rights either.

I think we agree Biden's current policies mean we will have significantly more people coming and unlikely ever leaving. I think we agree the administration says, "don't come" but has given people incentives to come. We can argue semantics, but I think we ultimately agree about what's happening.

Nah, I've got nothing new for you.

Ahh, so the DHS is full of shit so you just ignore all the documented information they have on their site because well its convenient. Oh well, its not like I though you would even take the time to check it out.  This is not the first time I have had this conversation on this topic and every time its the same thing.  People hold onto their opinion as if they are in the ocean with a life jacket.  The worse thing you can do is ever validate an opinion.

Its not about you naming cities, as I could also name cities, its about you providing solid evidence to support your opinion.  If you say all Dems policy is bad, then I would expect you to list the policy.  If you say all Dems cities are bad based on their policy, I would expect you to list the policy that make them bad.  Just saying "Oh this city is bad" because currently the Mayor is a Dem is pretty weak.  Its like saying a State is bad because the Governor is a Dem but then ignore that the legislature are all GOP.  

You say the Biden Administration was stopped from financially catering to people based solely on ethnicity.  Which particular policy was this.  I hope you have something because this would be a very good topic.

It really does not matter if you find the LGBT or BLM movement ridiculous.  Let not lump the 2 groups together because the 2 groups are not the same.  What particular piece within the LGBT community that you find ridiculous.  Really, I could say the movement I see from white people is ridiculous but what the heck would that even mean.  I could define it better by saying they are trying to play the victim when they control all the levers within most local, state and federal governments.  That would at least narrow down that point.  I could also point to policy, institutions and systems they have implemented throughout the years to insure they stay on top.

Prejudice and Racism have very different and distinct definition.  The point I was making is that the word racism is used interchangeably with prejudice but that would be incorrect.  Its the reason why someone would call you a racist but instead what they were looking for is the word prejudice.  In certain instances your prejudice can be racial, depending on the nature of the context but that would still not mean you are a racist.  Either way, thats a subject for another day.

As to your last point on Biden immigration policy, well we still seem to be going in circles on this one.  You keep talking about his policy and I keep asking what policy.  You continue to not list any policy so I have to assume that you have no real clue what either the term policy means or you just have no clue what policy that support your opinion.   That leaves us with your opinion being more a feeling you have not really based on anything concrete.  If that is the case then we can drop this one.  There is no reason to debate about a policy that doesn't exist and there is no real reason to talk about what you are feeling since its not based on any facts.

Since you do not have anything I would guess then all we have discussed were your feelings.  Since nothing is based on any real facts or any concrete data, you basically just wanted to get your feelings out.  Nothing wrong with that but like I stated, you probably would have done better if you just dropped your feelings and then peace out.

"Ahh, so the DHS is full of shit so you just ignore all the documented information they have on their site because well its convenient." Yes! Also, crime statistics just suggest otherwise. Violent crime has increased significantly and I don't believe the problem is hate groups. Even hate crime statistics don't give people the results expected.

You keep on this point but man you seem to have a very hard time showing it. What crime stats shows otherwise.  Oh oh I know, Chicago.  Is that your go to again.  One city out of thousands.  Can you provide that all important information that dispute what the DHS has documented.  That would be a good step in proving your point.

"If you say all Dems policy is bad, then I would expect you to list the policy." Its a good thing I never actually said that. But I honestly give too much credit to democrat politicians for those cities often being or becoming shit. I really should give more credit or a shitty population that votes for bad leaders. How's San Fran doing?

The problem is you never actually listed anything.  You stated about bad policy but cannot produce one policy.  Usually if you are going to say something is bad, it would be good to actually point to that bad thing.  I have no clue about San Fran, what about it.  Why should I even care??  So you tell me why San Fran is shit since you brought it up,  am guessing you have something or is this another empty opinion.

Google or Bing (I like Bing): biden administration funding based on race

Ok, which particular policy you want to talk about.  I will throw in the first salvo lets talk about the minority loan situation for "socially disadvantaged" farmers.  Here is an article to wet your knowledge on the subject first before we go into it more indebt. https://modernfarmer.com/2019/08/how-did-african-american-farmers-lose-90-percent-of-their-land/

If that doesn't help, maybe take a look along these lines http://nationalaglawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/assets/crs/RS20430.pdf

If that is too much reading I understand, its way easier to just form an opinion from headlines then really understanding a particular issue.

"It really does not matter if you find the LGBT or BLM movement ridiculous.  Let not lump the 2 groups together because the 2 groups are not the same." They aren't that different honestly.

Then describe how they are the same.  What exactly is the LGBT and BLM have in common.

I concede. In retrospect Biden is doing a marvelous job with immigration and nothing he has done has encouraged people to come. No change in policies either, everything is actually the same since the last administration. I believe this because I had a lobotomy this morning.

This is why I don't spend too much time with political debates. To an ideologue nothing has changed or its actually better in every aspect.

I agree you should concede on this point since you actually never produced any evidence of policy change on immigration. I am guessing your bing search was not able to produce those policy changes.  Maybe you should use Google??  I personally never said anything did not change, I asked you to provide the change in policy for your opinion.  I am not debating you on this point, I am wondering what is the policy you keep talking about.  At the end of the day, I continue to wonder what exactly is the policy we are suppose to just know about that support your opinion when you cannot give one. 

"What crime stats shows otherwise." I look at the stats of crimes for the country. You can even see the number of murders for individual states or cities. Chicago has the most murders and that's why its a favorite example and its controlled by dems. Just to clarify, the biggest pile of murdered bodies.

"I have no clue about San Fran, what about it." The dems control it and it has turned into shit. If you don't know any specifics, that's okay. People that oppose the left tend to be aware of which major cities are falling apart and who is in power.

"The problem is you never actually listed anything.  You stated about bad policy but cannot produce one policy." I did a quick search and found this... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/03/22/key-facts-about-u-s-immigration-policies-and-bidens-proposed-changes/

"we go into it more indebt." For the record, indebt is not a word. "In debt" is but not relevant. What you mean is, "in depth."

 "If that is too much reading I understand, its way easier to just form an opinion from headlines then really understanding a particular issue." You should educate judges, not me.

"What exactly is the LGBT and BLM have in common." Pinkos.

"What crime stats shows otherwise." I look at the stats of crimes for the country. You can even see the number of murders for individual states or cities. Chicago has the most murders and that's why its a favorite example and its controlled by dems. Just to clarify, the biggest pile of murdered bodies.

"I have no clue about San Fran, what about it." The dems control it and it has turned into shit. If you don't know any specifics, that's okay. People that oppose the left tend to be aware of which major cities are falling apart and who is in power.

"The problem is you never actually listed anything.  You stated about bad policy but cannot produce one policy." I did a quick search and found this... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/03/22/key-facts-about-u-s-immigration-policies-and-bidens-proposed-changes/

"we go into it more indebt." For the record, indebt is not a word. "In debt" is but not relevant. What you mean is, "in depth."

 "If that is too much reading I understand, its way easier to just form an opinion from headlines then really understanding a particular issue." You should educate judges, not me.

"What exactly is the LGBT and BLM have in common." Pinkos.

First of all, when the DHS talks about the biggest threat to this country, they are talking about Domestic Terror threats. You can't really apply this to overall crime trends, because they aren't talking about the same thing. As you stated Pugs, domestic terror make up a fairly small part of the overall crime picture, so it doesn't really make sense to blame any group (eg. Neo Nazis or BLM or Antifa) for the recent increase in crime.

But it is also important to note that the recent increase in crime is just that: Recent. The overall trend of violent crime rates has shown that they have been decreasing since around 1991. If you want to blame all of the country's issues on increased liberalism, it seems kind of arbitrary to say "Okay, so the increase in the last year is because of Democratic policy, but the decline over the past three decades isn't". 

If you go into more depth on this recent increase, it becomes even harder to point to Democratic policies as the impetus. There was roughly a 26% increase in homicides between 2019 and 2020 in Republican cities, and no correlation between the number of BLM protests and the increase in the homicide rate, so your hypothesis doesn't seem to be supported by data.

As for your claims regarding immigration, you can't just point to Biden's platform, you have to explain why it is bad and provide evidence of the issues that you believe the specific policies cause.