'Heartbreaking' conditions in US migrant child camp

[Mr Puggsly]

Machiavellian said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Wow, over 6000 far right hate groups that commit crimes, murders and acts of terrorism?! That's very scary! I hope people recognize much of the real threats has little to do with hate groups. I think most of them just share memes and disagree with left wing ideologies. I mean stats just don't reflect those groups to be a major issue per se. Pretty sure Juggalos are still a hate group by the way.

The problem with Chicago is the crime in general. It would still be a testament to bad leadership regardless what color was committing the crime. Also, anytime they entertain solutions its always neglecting the real problems and blaming other cities/states. I don't wanna talk too much about overall murder statistics, that would be racist to even look at.

Okay, so I'm not living in fear, but I should instead embrace left wing ideas? The left's ideas right now are fear whitey, everything is literally racist and we need more democrats in power to solve all our problems. I could elaborate but I won't. People are more bothered by LGBT ideologies than actual homosexuals, its actually a parody at this point. Again, the open border solution is not beneficial compared to a merit based solution and work visas. Quality of life will decline with this kind of leadership.

Hey, if I'm boring you... I hope you can find a solution. My responses are for my entertainment.

Yeah, 6K, why don't you take it up with the DHS since its that org that believes the greatest risk to your lively hood is the far right hate groups instead of BLM.  Like I stated, the news you get would love to ignore those groups.  Ignore that they even exist.  Ignore that they cause more damage then your average gang in your favorite place Chicago.  Even now you dismiss them because maybe they do not pose a danger to you but they are quite real and if you actually take the time, you will find their is quite a bit of documented examples and listing of the damage they do.  Anyway keep that energy with BLM as your primary go to because they are the current bogie man.

Yes, we all know Chicago has issues, you did not get what I was stating.  No matter how good or bad Chicago is or what's going on, you only concentrate on the negative and when in debates, its always your go to.  It will always be with you "What about Chicago", just like I continue to read from conservative media about black on black murder while it shows White people kill White people more.  The thing is context is always key but when you want to give people something to hate, its always easy to find some example and use that.  Its no different then Trump singling out the one black person in at his rally and then stating "See here, black people love me".

Hmm, so that is your current opinion is that the left fear white people and that everything is racist.  Now what is the policies that are being proposed from this position.  What laws have been brought up into congress or even added to bills that support this particular stance.  If this a particular viewpoint built on what examples.  Let me ask this question, do you believe there is still widespread racism in the US.  I will give you my answer just for reference.  No, there is no widespread racism in the US but there is widespread prejudice within the US which is the real problem.

What ideology that the LGBT community is bringing to the table that people hate so much.  If anything, the only thing I see is that they want equal rights and protection just like any minority group.  I am trying to figure out what are they trying to change that would cause this fear or is it just like anything within the US, if its not the norm then it must be dangerous.

Why you keep bringing up Open boarders.  Can you point to any particular Dem policy that is current or coming that is pushing for open boarders.  The funny thing is when you do a google search on this, the right wing media is littered with such headlines but when you actually read the articles, they do not list one policy that support the position.  Instead its that good old gameplan of fear I was talking about.  Its like that Tucker Carlson video on this thread.  Its not about actually having any proof of something, you just need to say it and then transition to some other opinion article to then claim its a fact.  Lets see the policy for this open boarder you keep talking about.

As to you boring me, well yeah.  I keep hoping you will kick into a new gear and start to back up your opinion with some really good hitting stats but instead its just been pretty much right wing opinion points left and right.  I continue to see if you will still kick into a new gear because I had a whole list of stuff I was going to bring to the table but I have not seen any reason why I should. We cannot seem to get past just pure opinion from you to something more concrete.

Yeah, I believe DHS is full of shit and panders to fools. I don't necessarily consider BLM a significant threat either, although they/it has encouraged people to commit violent crime. Honestly I consider Antifa worse, but I'm not sure how relevant they are at this point. Maybe the news is bored of that stuff since it mostly affects liberal cities.

*Looks at conservative talking points* Uhmmm... I could name numerous other cities that are blue and have exceptionally high murders. However, Chicago blows them all away (get the pun, like a gun).

*Hmm, so that is your current opinion is that the left fear white people and that everything is racist. Now what is the policies that are being proposed from this position.* Yes and yes. The Biden administration was stopped from financially catering to people based solely on ethnicity as well. Also, prejudice and racism are synonyms. So it doesn't make much sense one is widespread but the other is not.

I support equal rights. But I find the LGBT and BLM movements ridiculous. Their sole focus isn't equal rights either.

I think we agree Biden's current policies mean we will have significantly more people coming and unlikely ever leaving. I think we agree the administration says, "don't come" but has given people incentives to come. We can argue semantics, but I think we ultimately agree about what's happening.

Nah, I've got nothing new for you.