Rocky IV - Over the top 80s cheese, but really good 80s cheese. A big hit with the general audience.

Billy Madison - Stupid, but funny.

Halloween II (1981) - I actually sorta like this one better than the original.

Transformers: The Movie (1986) - The original animated one where Optimus dies ... still think it's by far the best Transformers movie.

The Mummy (1999) - Actually I think this is better than some of the Indiana Jones movies and considerably more fun than The Phantom Menace released the same summer.

The Karate Kid Part II - Part III is legit bad, but Part II is a worthy sequel to the original set in Okinawa.

Tomorrow Never Dies - It's not that bad of a Bond film.

The World Is Not Enough - OK, Denise Richards as a Lara Croft nuclear specialist is silly, but overall a good time.

Octopussy - One of the sillier Bond movies, but entertaining, even just saying the title of the movie makes you giggle.

Armageddon - Michael Bay schlock sure, and obnoxiously loud at times sure, but it's also well made at times too.

Mary Shelly's Frankenstein - Robert DeNiro's as the popular main character, it's actually not as bad as the critics savaged it as.

Ace Ventura: Pet Detective - The movie that would skyrocket Jim Carrey to fame reviewed like a dog, and aspects of it haven't aged well (Einhorn stuff), but it's clearly a breakout part for Jim Carrey, also a little known Courtney Cox who's career would take off the same year with this and the TV show, Friends.

Mortal Kombat (1995) - The OG video game movie hit, if you were a critic you probably didn't "get it", but if you were a fan of the game, you were over the moon.

Starship Troopers - It seems like this got better reviewed over time, but in 1997 it was really getting harped on by critics.

The Fast And The Furious (2001) - The OG that started it all is a fun watch even today but it wasn't very well received by critics at first. Must be something here for it to have spawned so many sequels.

Pearl Harbor - Another Michael Bay film that takes a lot of shit, and some of it is well deserved but it also has its moments and has a terrific score.

Vanilla Sky - Tom Cruise's 2001 remake as a Spanish language hit didn't connect with critics, but honestly it's not a bad film.

I Know What You Did Last Summer - Riding the coattails of the admittedly better Scream (1996), IKWYDLS none the less became a pop culture hit making Jennifer Love Hewitt the teen scream queen of her day.

Cloud Atlas is only a 55 on Metacritic, but I thought it hit some real high notes and was overall a good experience.

It may try a bit too hard at times and occasionally missteps but I admire its scope, ambition, and emotional resonance.

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Pirates of the Caribbean Dead man's Chest, At World's End, and Dead men Tell No Tales. ESPECIALLY DMC and AWE. those two are my all-time favourite movies and I genuinely don't understand the hate they got. They were very well written, well-directed, looked amazing, had a modern classic soundtrack, and genuinely some of the best ensemble casts I've ever seen next only to the marvel movies (Not just jack sparrow but nearly everyone in the first three movies was memorable and distinct).

any time a discussion about these movies, especially the original trilogy, comes up I keep seeing all this subtle storytelling about characters in the past and all the subtle little hint and real world references, it's just so good. And they're unique. In as long as I've been watching movies I've NEVER seen films that have the same look, feel, and atmosphere of what we got in Pirates of the Caribbean. Even the fourth one (Which I didn't care much for) was beautiful and fun.

I admit a lot of my opinions can be seen as hot takes but I genuinely don't understand why love for this series fell off a cliff after the first one. At least for the original trilogy I thought they started strong and kept getting better. 4 was a weak spot and I genuinely do feel 5 was on par with 1. of the 5-movie run, 4 of them are among my all-time favourites and for the life of me I can't understand the critical beating and gradual disdain for these movies.

most of the time I at least understand WHY people hate something Ilike or like something I don't (I personally loved the marvel movie "Eternals" But I TOTALLY get why it wasn't super popular.) but with Pirates they always came across as films that were a tonne of fun on the surface, with a unique look and feel, that had a lot more going on just under the skin that could be appreciated if you look. Like Souls games. Fun enough on the surface but so deep if you're willing to delve.

Runa216 said: Pirates of the Caribbean Dead man's Chest, At World's End, and Dead men Tell No Tales. ESPECIALLY DMC and AWE. those two are my all-time favourite movies and I genuinely don't understand the hate they got. They were very well written, well-directed, looked amazing, had a modern classic soundtrack, and genuinely some of the best ensemble casts I've ever seen next only to the marvel movies (Not just jack sparrow but nearly everyone in the first three movies was memorable and distinct). any time a discussion about these movies, especially the original trilogy, comes up I keep seeing all this subtle storytelling about characters in the past and all the subtle little hint and real world references, it's just so good. And they're unique. In as long as I've been watching movies I've NEVER seen films that have the same look, feel, and atmosphere of what we got in Pirates of the Caribbean. Even the fourth one (Which I didn't care much for) was beautiful and fun. I admit a lot of my opinions can be seen as hot takes but I genuinely don't understand why love for this series fell off a cliff after the first one. At least for the original trilogy I thought they started strong and kept getting better. 4 was a weak spot and I genuinely do feel 5 was on par with 1. of the 5-movie run, 4 of them are among my all-time favourites and for the life of me I can't understand the critical beating and gradual disdain for these movies. most of the time I at least understand WHY people hate something Ilike or like something I don't (I personally loved the marvel movie "Eternals" But I TOTALLY get why it wasn't super popular.) but with Pirates they always came across as films that were a tonne of fun on the surface, with a unique look and feel, that had a lot more going on just under the skin that could be appreciated if you look. Like Souls games. Fun enough on the surface but so deep if you're willing to delve.

I'm intrigued by this take. I haven't personally watched Dead Men Tell No Tales, but my brother is a HUGE PotC fan. He rewatches the first 4 at least once per year, usually a couple of times. I think he ranks them 1>2>4>3, but he basically loves all of them all and doesn't mind their individual shortcomings. However, even he HATES 5. Like so much so, that he's the reason I haven't watched it. He told me it's one of the worst movies he's ever seen lol. In fact, just before hitting submit on this post, I asked him again to confirm, and he yelled at me that you could put a bunch of monkeys in a room and they'd come up with a better movie.

Angelus said: I'm intrigued by this take. I haven't personally watched Dead Men Tell No Tales, but my brother is a HUGE PotC fan. He rewatches the first 4 at least once per year, usually a couple of times. I think he ranks them 1>2>4>3, but he basically loves all of them all and doesn't mind their individual shortcomings. However, even he HATES 5. Like so much so, that he's the reason I haven't watched it. He told me it's one of the worst movies he's ever seen lol. In fact, just before hitting submit on this post, I asked him again to confirm, and he yelled at me that you could put a bunch of monkeys in a room and they'd come up with a better movie.

I should probably go back and rewatch 5 then, because while I absolutely saw and felt its shortcomings I felt the character work was pretty good. I liked the setting and the goal and the swashbuckling. IT did feel a little off at times but it's a long way from terrible. 

Let me do a marathon and get back to you, see how I feel with fresh eyes. I just went back to watch Avatar again and it reinvigorated my love for that movie. Yeah, basic plot but everything else was amazing. (And as a writer I understand that it's very common for story tropes and styles, especially ones inspired by real world history, tend to have a lot of overlap.) 

Scarier Horror films in general prior to about 2010 were generally panned by hypocritics.

Mostly, if a film like Jaws, The Birds, or others used shock and blood/violence, the critics didn’t see it as a problem, but if a film that was actually scary used them, like Saw or the Grudge used them, those things were suddenly massive problems and get labeled “torture porn” or “jump scares” because they’re used in ways that make people unsettled or frightened. Like they’re offended that they were frightened and need to slam a film with excuses.

Horror’s come a long way in the past 10-12 years. Saw and the Grudge aren’t the scariest anymore, not by a long shot; but, they are still probably the scariest and most unsettling, or at least in the top 5, prior to 2005 or so.

Granted, critics are getting a lot better with how they view horror. Art horror is getting some really good reviews these days (I’m talking certain A24 type films). Although, they’ll still give extra points to the safer more low-tension horror films that have some kind of metaphor or allegorical theme, Get Out being the prime example—that one has a 98%. It’s not even Jordan Peele’s best horror film, IMO. Jordan Peele can’t even hit that level anymore despite much more artistic elements (Nope) or much more thrilling elements (Us)—critics want him to put in more racial metaphors to make certain hypocritics feel good about themselves for praising before they’ll give him another 98%. Although, to the credit of most critics, Us and Nope still did exceedingly well with the majority… it’s definitely a big improvement from earlier times.

On the topic of Saw. James Wan created Insidious as a response to critics. Basically, it was to defend his craft as not being all about “torture porn” and he made one of the scariest films of all time (at the time) with that one. He’d go on to outdo even that one with Conjuring 1 and 2, I think the first is generally considered scarier, but I feel the second beats it if you have the proper sound system… audio, subtle audio, is a big part of why Conjuring 2 is, IMO, one of the scariest films ever made—this film literally gave people heart attacks. I’m getting off topic, Insidious (66%), Conjuring 1 (86%), and Conjuring 2 (80%) were all well received by critics. Relatively speaking, Saw was almost universally panned, but is currently at 50%.

Speaking of audio, Hereditary uses it, and I believe was scientifically demonstrated to be the most frightening film in existence. And to the credit of modern critics, it has a 90%. Go back 40 years, and that one would be winning razzies (case and point: The Shining).

So I meandered a bit :)

The Godfather

SegaHeart said: The Godfather

hipster

Runa216 said: SegaHeart said: The Godfather hipster

I was just joking, Everybody knows it's great movie wanted to see what type of comments I get If I typed something like that?