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Runa216 said:
JWeinCom said:

Can you have an orgasm through anal sex? I assume gay men like orgasms, and I thought stimulating the penis was the way to get there. Anal sex to me seems like it'd be like getting a blowjob that never gets finished off.

And, I'm just not into anal stuff in general. Like... I wouldn't push a girl to do it. I kind of feel like it's something I don't imagine I'd enjoy, so I assume she wouldn't either. If a girl really wanted it... I guess I'd try it? But so far I've never been put on the spot.

Oh it is absolutely possible to orgasm exclusively from anal. IT's not super common, but it's definitely possible. I've only done it like 2 or 3 times, and it was probably the most intense, body-rocking climax I've ever felt. Remember, the brain is the primary sex organ. 

Think about it this way: If a man grows up and realizes they're trans, and thus not a man and they get a gender reassignment surgery, you think they're gonna do that knowing they will go the rest of their lives without orgasms?

Yeah, it's weird to think about things you can't fathom. Like, to a straight man such as yourself, it must absolutely be foreign as hell to think about getting off to anal, or to climaxing without penis interaction. But, for people with different sexuality and different things that make them tick, think of it this way: You don't have a tail, but that doesn't mean a dog cannot wag theirs. I know it's not an exactly perfect analogy, but different people do feel differently about different things. So just because you are not familiar with the concepts doesn't mean they aren't valid (and no I'm not insinuating you think anal sex is invalid). 

It took me forever to figure out a lot about myself, and to understand how different bodies work. But with an open mind and a lot of friends in the kink community, I was able to broaden my perspective and understand things I used to not even remotely contemplate. Like you, I used to think you needed phallic stimulation to get off, but here we are. 

We do understand that Penis in Vagina sex is an overwhelming majority of sexual encounters in this world and throughout history, but there's a lot more out there to explore. The only way we'll collectively get better educated and more openminded is to allow ourselves to have these conversations and open ourselves to perspectives that may be beyond our initial understanding.  

Dunno how many times you've had sex, and not asking, but if you only did it as bottom and only had 2-3 orgasms. I dunno. Doesn't seem worth it to me. 

I don't know if mtf trans women can have orgasms. Honestly, never thought about it before. 

I've orgasmed once without penis contact (wet dream) so I know it's possible without any contact at all... It was actually a bizarre moment. It was like when you're in the matrix and you die in the matrix you die in real life XD.

For now, I'm pretty happy to stick with the holes I'm used to. I'm a basic kind of guy. I like my burgers plain, and my tea black. If you want to have a hawaiin style burger and a mango peach bubble tea though, go for it. 

Maybe one day a manic pixie dream girl nympho will come along and expand my horizons XD.



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SvennoJ said:
JWeinCom said:

Can you have an orgasm through anal sex? I assume gay men like orgasms, and I thought stimulating the penis was the way to get there. Anal sex to me seems like it'd be like getting a blowjob that never gets finished off.

And, I'm just not into anal stuff in general. Like... I wouldn't push a girl to do it. I kind of feel like it's something I don't imagine I'd enjoy, so I assume she wouldn't either. If a girl really wanted it... I guess I'd try it? But so far I've never been put on the spot.

You can have orgasms in many ways without any simulation to the penis.

I guess if you have to put a label on it, what makes you gay is if you fall in love with someone from the same sex. I mean, if you're into group sex or orgies, it doesn't make you a polygamist.

I dunno. I think it would be based on sexual attraction wouldn't it?

I know some people who are bi but only have relationships with one or the other. And people who have sex and never seem to form emotional bonds. If someone likes sex with the same gender, I'd say they're gay even if they don't love them.



JWeinCom said:
Majora said:

This is how I can tell you’re a straight guy, haha! Many men, myself included, are exclusively bottom because we love how it feels! It’s absolutely not the raw end of the deal and there are many gay men who only take the “passive” (bottom) role, just as there are many who only take the “active” (top) role. Many also alternate (flip/flop) and many gay men do not like anal sex at all, whether in giving or receiving. My main source of bemusement has always come from the cliché of gay men “bending over” - out of all the thousands of times I’ve had sex, the amount of time I’ve spent bent over is minimal. I guess it just shows an extreme lack of imagination or lack of understanding of human anatomy. 

This is a really weird thread but also kinda cool to be able to talk openly about this stuff. I’m not a prude and love sex but it’s still cool when you see gay and straight people talk about gay sex - after all, I hear/see a lot about straight sex or sexuality in the media (of course I would, most people are straight, I don’t see this as a problem). 

Can you have an orgasm through anal sex? I assume gay men like orgasms, and I thought stimulating the penis was the way to get there. Anal sex to me seems like it'd be like getting a blowjob that never gets finished off.

And, I'm just not into anal stuff in general. Like... I wouldn't push a girl to do it. I kind of feel like it's something I don't imagine I'd enjoy, so I assume she wouldn't either. If a girl really wanted it... I guess I'd try it? But so far I've never been put on the spot.

I do like orgasms, however - I don’t have sex purely to reach climax. It is possible to orgasm anally, but it isn’t the point of sex (for me, anyway). I find too many people go into sex aiming straight at the orgasm, but I think that’s a waste and also means a lot is missed out on. All I can tell you is, anal sex (for me) feels incredible, so no short straws drawn!

In terms of Herero sex, it’s completely common for straight couples to engage in anal sex. It’s rather funny to think about, but if around 10% of the global population is gay (and even lower if we’re talking about gay men as opposed to including lesbians) then most of the anal sex going on in the world is going on between a man and a woman. Don’t have nightmares, haha! 



JWeinCom said:
SvennoJ said:

You can have orgasms in many ways without any simulation to the penis.

I guess if you have to put a label on it, what makes you gay is if you fall in love with someone from the same sex. I mean, if you're into group sex or orgies, it doesn't make you a polygamist.

I dunno. I think it would be based on sexual attraction wouldn't it?

I know some people who are bi but only have relationships with one or the other. And people who have sex and never seem to form emotional bonds. If someone likes sex with the same gender, I'd say they're gay even if they don't love them. 

Yeah, I agree with you here. I think it’s the same sex physical attraction that makes someone gay. I don’t think love factors in gender or sex at all. I’ve had sex with many men whom I didn’t love, and I’ve felt deep love for both men and women. I’m in no way bisexual at all when it comes to physical sex, but I have been in love with a woman or two that went beyond simply platonic. 



Majora said:
JWeinCom said:

Can you have an orgasm through anal sex? I assume gay men like orgasms, and I thought stimulating the penis was the way to get there. Anal sex to me seems like it'd be like getting a blowjob that never gets finished off.

And, I'm just not into anal stuff in general. Like... I wouldn't push a girl to do it. I kind of feel like it's something I don't imagine I'd enjoy, so I assume she wouldn't either. If a girl really wanted it... I guess I'd try it? But so far I've never been put on the spot.

I do like orgasms, however - I don’t have sex purely to reach climax. It is possible to orgasm anally, but it isn’t the point of sex (for me, anyway). I find too many people go into sex aiming straight at the orgasm, but I think that’s a waste and also means a lot is missed out on. All I can tell you is, anal sex (for me) feels incredible, so no short straws drawn!

In terms of Herero sex, it’s completely common for straight couples to engage in anal sex. It’s rather funny to think about, but if around 10% of the global population is gay (and even lower if we’re talking about gay men as opposed to including lesbians) then most of the anal sex going on in the world is going on between a man and a woman. Don’t have nightmares, haha! 

Oh, I've seen plenty of anal sex between men and women. It doesn't bother me, just not something I'd want to partake in. 



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JWeinCom said:
Majora said:

I do like orgasms, however - I don’t have sex purely to reach climax. It is possible to orgasm anally, but it isn’t the point of sex (for me, anyway). I find too many people go into sex aiming straight at the orgasm, but I think that’s a waste and also means a lot is missed out on. All I can tell you is, anal sex (for me) feels incredible, so no short straws drawn!

In terms of Herero sex, it’s completely common for straight couples to engage in anal sex. It’s rather funny to think about, but if around 10% of the global population is gay (and even lower if we’re talking about gay men as opposed to including lesbians) then most of the anal sex going on in the world is going on between a man and a woman. Don’t have nightmares, haha! 

Oh, I've seen plenty of anal sex between men and women. It doesn't bother me, just not something I'd want to partake in. 

I was just making a little joke ;)



JWeinCom said:

Dunno how many times you've had sex, and not asking, but if you only did it as bottom and only had 2-3 orgasms. I dunno. Doesn't seem worth it to me. 

I don't know if mtf trans women can have orgasms. Honestly, never thought about it before. 

I've orgasmed once without penis contact (wet dream) so I know it's possible without any contact at all... It was actually a bizarre moment. It was like when you're in the matrix and you die in the matrix you die in real life XD.

For now, I'm pretty happy to stick with the holes I'm used to. I'm a basic kind of guy. I like my burgers plain, and my tea black. If you want to have a hawaiin style burger and a mango peach bubble tea though, go for it. 

Maybe one day a manic pixie dream girl nympho will come along and expand my horizons XD.

I am not strictly a bottom, not sure where you got that impression. But that's just it, I do have male genitals and I do stimulate them...it just happens to be the best when I'm also playing out back if you get my drift. I can jerk it or fuck someone just fine and the orgasms are enjoyable enough, but anal stimulation really does take it up about three or four notches. The point I'm trying to make here is that it's possible to orgasm JUST from anal stimulation, just like some people can get off by being tickled or gagged or choked. I can't get off to any of those methods, personally, but the butt stuff is the best. 

and that said, there's nothing at all wrong with Vanilla fun. IT's the most common and prevalent form of intimacy for a reason. It works, it's perfect for most people, and if it makes ya happy that's perfect. Different people have different thresholds for different things. You like your kinks vanilla and simple. I wanna sit on a dick so big it'd make a horse blush. both of these preferences are entirely valid. 

My ethics are pretty simple. If it's consensual, then that's really all there is to it. Consensual = valid. IT might be weird or gross or even dangerous, but it's your body or the body of your partner, and if all parties consent, have fun! Just be smart about it and don't hurt yourself  (unless that's part of the kink). Like Majora said, some gay folks are strictly tops, others strictly bottoms, some don't like anal, there are bisexua people, asexual people, soloists, and vanillites. it all boils down to consent. If you ain't hurting anyone who doesn't want that, then it's all valid. 

No matter how uncomfortable it might make some people feel. 

Personally, I still need phallic stimulation for the most part, but it's best when paired with anal stimulation. Some people don't need penis contact at all! I know some folks who literally make little penis cages so they CAN'T touch themselves while they're doing butt stuff, that way they're forced to either not get off or ONLY to get off anally. I personally think that's weird as hell and counterproductive...but that's from my personal perspective based on my personal experiences. I don't entirely get it, but I Respect it! 

I wish more people were like that. "I don't get it, but hey, you do you!"



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Runa216 said:

JWeinCom said:

Dunno how many times you've had sex, and not asking, but if you only did it as bottom and only had 2-3 orgasms. I dunno. Doesn't seem worth it to me. 

I don't know if mtf trans women can have orgasms. Honestly, never thought about it before. 

I've orgasmed once without penis contact (wet dream) so I know it's possible without any contact at all... It was actually a bizarre moment. It was like when you're in the matrix and you die in the matrix you die in real life XD.

For now, I'm pretty happy to stick with the holes I'm used to. I'm a basic kind of guy. I like my burgers plain, and my tea black. If you want to have a hawaiin style burger and a mango peach bubble tea though, go for it. 

Maybe one day a manic pixie dream girl nympho will come along and expand my horizons XD.

I am not strictly a bottom, not sure where you got that impression. But that's just it, I do have male genitals and I do stimulate them...it just happens to be the best when I'm also playing out back if you get my drift. I can jerk it or fuck someone just fine and the orgasms are enjoyable enough, but anal stimulation really does take it up about three or four notches. The point I'm trying to make here is that it's possible to orgasm JUST from anal stimulation, just like some people can get off by being tickled or gagged or choked. I can't get off to any of those methods, personally, but the butt stuff is the best. 

and that said, there's nothing at all wrong with Vanilla fun. IT's the most common and prevalent form of intimacy for a reason. It works, it's perfect for most people, and if it makes ya happy that's perfect. Different people have different thresholds for different things. You like your kinks vanilla and simple. I wanna sit on a dick so big it'd make a horse blush. both of these preferences are entirely valid. 

My ethics are pretty simple. If it's consensual, then that's really all there is to it. Consensual = valid. IT might be weird or gross or even dangerous, but it's your body or the body of your partner, and if all parties consent, have fun! Just be smart about it and don't hurt yourself  (unless that's part of the kink). Like Majora said, some gay folks are strictly tops, others strictly bottoms, some don't like anal, there are bisexua people, asexual people, soloists, and vanillites. it all boils down to consent. If you ain't hurting anyone who doesn't want that, then it's all valid. 

No matter how uncomfortable it might make some people feel. 

Personally, I still need phallic stimulation for the most part, but it's best when paired with anal stimulation. Some people don't need penis contact at all! I know some folks who literally make little penis cages so they CAN'T touch themselves while they're doing butt stuff, that way they're forced to either not get off or ONLY to get off anally. I personally think that's weird as hell and counterproductive...but that's from my personal perspective based on my personal experiences. I don't entirely get it, but I Respect it! 

I wish more people were like that. "I don't get it, but hey, you do you!"

I was just speaking hypothetically. If you were only a bottom you wouldn't be having many orgasms assuming that's all you did. 

Honestly, I'm not quite a sub, but I'm generally deferential to what a woman wants. It's pretty easy for me to get off with whatever, so if she needs something extra, lets do that. 



JWeinCom said:

I dunno. I think it would be based on sexual attraction wouldn't it?

I know some people who are bi but only have relationships with one or the other. And people who have sex and never seem to form emotional bonds. If someone likes sex with the same gender, I'd say they're gay even if they don't love them.

I know I've never developed any romantic feelings for other guys but have fantasized about same gender sex. Of course fantasies are far different from actually doing it. Experiments in my early twenties were wholly unsatisfying. And while I consider myself to be autosexual as well, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with myself.

Anyway some of what excites me goes back to very early sexual experiences, intended sexual or not. It is very true that your first encounters have a huge influence on how your sexual desires develop. However I don't think it has any influence on how your romantic feelings develop. You can't make someone gay or not gay, but you can sure mess up (or broaden) their sexual desires.



KLAMarine said:
VAMatt said:

What if a person with a penis that IDs as a woman likes penis in the butt? If a person with a penis comes along and sticks that penis in the first person's butt, and both parties agree that this is the only type of sex they ever want to have, and the other is the only person they want to have it with, who is gay?

What if that person IDs as a transwoman but only when there's a penis in their (they/them) butt but then a vagina is inserted into their butt instead, a vagina they thought was going to ID as a penis, who's nonbinary then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOMLgoKcnH8

Everyone is non-binary.