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IcaroRibeiro said:
Nope, this is a very very weak line up, and Braverly Default is not even confirmed yet

Switch will sell well regardless, but on software sales they will need to rely on their back catalog

I still believing on the rumours about Monster Hunter Switch, this is a truly system seller and will skyrocket Switch sales, let's see

Monster Hunter classically is a more Japan centric title, but yes, this would also bolster this lineup. I also heard stuff about a 2D-metroid, possibly a remaster of Samus Returns. Possibly a rumour, but again, if true something more to look forward to. Nothing of this is big as Smash, but all together might be enough.



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Mnementh said:
IcaroRibeiro said:
Nope, this is a very very weak line up, and Braverly Default is not even confirmed yet

Switch will sell well regardless, but on software sales they will need to rely on their back catalog

I still believing on the rumours about Monster Hunter Switch, this is a truly system seller and will skyrocket Switch sales, let's see

Monster Hunter classically is a more Japan centric title, but yes, this would also bolster this lineup. I also heard stuff about a 2D-metroid, possibly a remaster of Samus Returns. Possibly a rumour, but again, if true something more to look forward to. Nothing of this is big as Smash, but all together might be enough.

2D metroid at 60 price is too niche for being a major seller, but I'm definitely looking forward it regardless 

As for Monster Hunter, World skyrocket its popularity in west I'm sure a brand new Monster Hunter with proper AAA production value and a massive marketing campaign from Nintendo will have stellar sales both domestically and internationally and might as well be the best selling 3rd party game on Switch by far



Cerebralbore101 said:

Not really a good holiday lineup.  Just comparing it to Nintendo's 2018 lineup it is lacking. And 2018 was a fairly weak year for Switch.

Holidays 2018

Smash Bros Ultimate
Torna The Golden Country
Super Mario Party
Poke'mon Let's Go
Valkyria Chronicles 4 Nintendo shouldn't be given credit for 3rd party games.

Holidays 2020

Bravely Default II Nintendo shouldn't be given credit for 3rd party games.
Pikmin 3
3D All Stars
Age of Calamity

Notice, I'm being overly generous to both years here. Rereleases of old games really shouldn't count for much. After all 2018 had Bayo 2, Tropical Freeze, and Treasure Tracker ported to Switch. The facts that we are focusing on the Holidays launch period, and 2018's ports all came outside the holidays puts an unfair hand on the scale. We're accidentally committing the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy by focusing so much on the holidays, where Nintendo's ports all happen have a holidays release date in 2020, and didn't happen to have a holidays release date in 2018. I listed Valkyria 4 and Bravely Default with strikethrough text just to remind people that 2018 had a 3rd party Strategy RPG in the holidays release window. So having a 3rd party JRPG in the 2020 holidays release window shouldn't be impressive. Oh, and since OP included a game which releases in September, I'm including September 2018 games in this comparison too.

Finally, it goes without saying that Mario Kart Home Circuit shouldn't count at all. This should be obvious, but I know a ton of people aren't going to get the context of the conversation. It's an AR Mario Kart game that costs $100 per remote controlled car. There are a ton of other reasons why it shouldn't impress anyone, but I'd be talking to a crowd so dense and clueless that they make Sheldon from Big Bang Theory look socially aware.

The only game with a Nintendo IP, that I'm looking forward to for Holidays 2020 is Age of Calamity. And even that a mild type of looking forward to. If it didn't have the BotW engine, and Zelda BotW Lore, I'd be skipping it. On the flip side, I was salivating at the mouth for Smash Ultimate, and Torna in Holidays 2018.

In holidays 2018 I bought Valkyria 4, Smash, Torna, and Poke'mon Let's Go. In Holidays 2020 I'm going to buy Age of Calamity, Pikmin 3 (for collection purposes. I already own it on Wii U), and Bravely Default II. Personally it's Smash, Torna, and Let's Go VS Age of Calamity.

This does have a small chance of changing in favor of 2020 though. Nintendo could shadow drop more Holidays 2020 games like Poke'mon Snap 2 (with 3x the length of the original), or a new F-Zero game, or a 2D Metroid with AAA quality development.


It makes zero sense to exclude major third party titles when those are the driving force for other platforms. But especially in this case, as Nintendo is actually publishing Bravely Default II. If we also include other major third party exclusives, No More Heroes 3 is still slated for this year. And Mario Kart Live features complete software in addition to the toy. There's no reason to arbitrarily decide which games should count as their lineup based on your personal preferences. I personally don't care about Bravely or Mario Kart Live but to say they just don't count for absolutely no reason is being completely unfair. Even more so seeing as you would think a new Metroid or F-Zero to count when those would be MUCH smaller releases sales wise for Nintendo compared to Hyrule Warriors or Mario 3D All Stars. Maybe even smaller than Bravely Default, which did really well on 3DS, and better than the Metroid games released on that platform.



Still the weakest late fall/holiday first-party line-up of the Switch so far. And considering it's already September, we're likely to not get another first-party port or new game surprise for December or any of the rest of the year. Bravely Default 2 is still unknown besides a 2020 release date. There's honestly a good chance that game gets delayed until the first half of 2021.
From a revenue standpoint, there's plenty for Nintendo to bank on in the fall and leading up to the holidays.



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First off I'd say it never looked like Nintendo was forgetting the holidays. That's just the absurd conclusion some people came to just because we didn't know what was coming out during the holidays yet.

I think there will no doubt be at least one more holiday announcement in the coming weeks. With BotW2 clearly hitting next year after the Hyrule Warriors announcement, I'm not expecting a really major holiday title, but rather just at least one more solid first party game to be added to that lineup.

So far we have:
1. Mario 3D All-Stars which will should easily sell 10+ million games in its 6 month run, and very likely just by the end of the year.
2. Mario Kart Live which is more a kids/niche title but is a cool piece of tech
3. Pikmin 3 Deluxe which will be a smaller selling game but still a solid release added to the Fall schedule
4. Hyrule Warriors which quite frankly looks awesome and I think it'll blow out the sales of the first game. Still not a mega seller but wouldn't be surprised to see a 3-4 million sales this holiday season alone.
And I'm pretty sure we'll have at least one more announcement of another moderately big game.

With the much more solid 3rd party support Switch is getting these days, plus Mario All-Stars as a major holiday seller, plus these other moderately popular games, plus probably more games to announce, and of course AC and RFA (perhaps more so in Japan) will continue driving Switch sales, I think its not a bad holiday at all. Will be interesting to see what else Nintendo announces for the holidays.

Personally I'll for sure be picking up Mario 3D All-Stars this holiday. And I might eventually pick up Pikmin and Hyrule Warriors, probably waiting for a sale down the road.



Nintendo's 2021 and 2022 Holidays are looking even worse, ZERO games from first AND third parties. Nintendo is doomed!



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It's all subjective. Considering Nintendo are already reaping the benefits of Super Mario 3D Collection being a top 20 seller for the year on Amazon, it's hard to think of it as a weak holiday. I know those are probably being bought by scalpers or paranoid people (like myself) but those are already huge numbers.



Not a great lineup. Remakes are ok but don't get me too excited. Mario Kart Live is fine for its audience but it's not for people my age, especially living in a small apartment. Bravely Default II hasn't been given a date yet. Hopefully it will release this year as planned. If it doesn't then, basically just Hyrule Warriors.

But, it's been a tough year all around, so no use getting all upset about it.



For the year we had, it is a pretty good lineup. I'm sure Animal crossing will still be heavy enough to give some weight to this come the holidays.