Pretending to be trans' is a myth. Hormones make cis people go crazy, dressing as the other popular gender is ridiculed and automatically laughed at.

The problem with doubting claims is that it's all we have. Self perceived identity can't be proven or disproven.

And really, bathroom don't need laws to change. Just people to be more accepting, at most, but again, from my priviledged perspective, it's pretty chill rn.

You pose this assertion of disastrous consequences without any proof or evidence that such disastrous consequences would occur. Further, in areas where we have already seen individuals be allowed to use the bathroom of their choice, the have been no disastrous consequences, which should invalidate this argument, yet I still see it made commonly.

And again:

"The potential for abuse by cis men goes both ways. If individuals are allowed access to bathrooms based on gender identity, a cis man could claim to be a trans woman and enter the bathroom. On the other hand, if individuals are allowed access to bathrooms based on their gender assigned at birth, a cis man could claim to be a trans man and enter the bathroom. Either way the potential for abuse exists. This is one of the reasons why there hasn't been any noted increase in such crimes in areas where individuals are allowed to choose their bathroom based on gender identity."

Laws restricting bathroom use do not protect people. They put transgendered individuals in harms way, and we do not see any tangible benefits. There is no trade-off here. Laws restricting bathroom use are harmful.

I'm not talking about actual trans people "pretending" but rather those who intend on abusing a system. This is not an attack on trans people, but im rather pointing out that an open system has clear logical fallacies from my unique perspective.

My thought process arrives at the conclusion that a binary classification (man or woman) does not make sense. My original post had a flow to it, but it's been butchered a lot today.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9169547

First paragraph directly refers to tweets that were linked in Hiku's posts where actors and actresses gunned for binary classification. Second paragraph invites readers of my post to be honest about their own perspective, questioning if transgender women are truly women or if there is a distinction to be made. Third paragraph calls out how common sense is tossed out of the window on social media platforms which goes back to the first paragraph and the statement that transgender women are women.

Or to put it into other words:

A man is a man.
A woman is a woman.
A transgender man is a transgender man.
A transgender woman is a transgender woman.

Now I don't know if that's offensive or not. Gender identity and gender expression make it a point that things are not binary, but it could possibly upset someone that the four lines above are four separate lines instead of only two. It could be viewed as transgender people being the odd ones out.

A fundamental issue I recognize here is a premise of "they are different, but they want to be the same" and that's always going to clash with itself. But this could very well just be people like the Harry Potter celebrities trying to take a stand for transgender people without actual transgender people viewing it the same way. Transgender people might recognize that they are odd ones out and their actual goals may be something like getting respect as human beings rather than dictating that a transgender woman is the same as a biological woman.

First of all, I think when having this discussion we have to first acknowledge that the question doesn't really matter. There's such a tiny portion of athletes who are both trans and top tier at their sport. You are talking about an issue that maybe impacts two people in the world, and the extent of it actually mattering is pretty low relative to other concerns.

That said, personally I think the issue revolves around the central unfairness of sports, because at the end of the day, sports aren't fair. It isn't fair to be almost 8ft tall and playing basketball next to other players who are under six feet. It isn't fair that some cis women have higher natural testosterone levels than other cis women. I agree that in some circumstances, being a trans woman competing against cis women gives you an unfair advantage, but at the end of the day, fairness shouldn't be the deciding factor, and without that argument I don't really see any objective footing to object from, but I'll gladly hear you make an argument if you would like to present one. 

First of all, I think when having this discussion we have to first acknowledge that the question doesn't really matter. There's such a tiny portion of athletes who are both trans and top tier at their sport. You are talking about an issue that maybe impacts two people in the world, and the extent of it actually mattering is pretty low relative to other concerns.

That said, personally I think the issue revolves around the central unfairness of sports, because at the end of the day, sports aren't fair. It isn't fair to be almost 8ft tall and playing basketball next to other players who are under six feet. It isn't fair that some cis women have higher natural testosterone levels than other cis women. I agree that in some circumstances, being a trans woman competing against cis women gives you an unfair advantage, but at the end of the day, fairness shouldn't be the deciding factor, and without that argument I don't really see any objective footing to object from, but I'll gladly hear you make an argument if you would like to present one.