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DonFerrari on 13 August 2020
Leynos said:
src said:

Excellence is often rewarded even more in society. Seems like your perception simply does not line up with reality.

By an measurable objective metric, ratings post conference, views, likes, consumer sentiment, PS5's event was a slam dunk.

Yeah with a Playstation avatar I'm sure you have no bias. Yes, that's why modern music is so shit yet so popular and why people reward terrible Star Wars films. Awful Transformers films. Why Fartnite is such a hit is it's such an excellent well crafted POS. Why AAAAAAA industry is doing so well despite most AAAAAAAA games being a money-grubbing pile of shit. People follow brands, not quality. Otherwise, FFXV would be a failure. TLOUII would tank for its trash writing and laughable attempt at morality. Why Skyward Sword and Mario Kart Wii sold well or people buying those terrible NSMB games. Why modern WWE gets 2 million people to watch per week even tho it's trash. Why reality shows exist. Why people pay high prices to buy Supreme garbage. People follow brands.

Once again both Sony and MS were

You thinking it is boring or whatever is your right, but trying to deny data that show public perception was favorable and then calling other one biased for it is very bad on you.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 13 August 2020
LGBTDBZBBQ said:
Marth said:

Just FYI if a video gets put as an advertisement before other Youtube videos, which is something Nintendo Sony and everone else does, the views of the ad count to the trailer views.

So high view counts can just mean it got pushed a lot as ad.

Labo has nearly the same amount of like as BOTW Indicated both were sharing the same amount of users engagement and yet BOTW outsold Labo greatly. 

Still, using YouTube and social media views to say game A will sell more than game B based on that is ridiculous. 

Only sales is the absolute metric to measure the users engagement and definitely not the free social media like and view.

I agree with this, although I don't see Labo as its best demonstration, as Labo looks to me like a case apart: a really great concept sadly plagued by implementations that didn't fulfil the expectations. BTW, as the implementations were considered by many little more that tech demos, probably pricing them much lower could have increased their acceptance and opened the way towards more satisfying ones, turning the Labo concept into the success it wasn't.



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Leynos on 13 August 2020
DonFerrari said:
Leynos said:

Yeah with a Playstation avatar I'm sure you have no bias. Yes, that's why modern music is so shit yet so popular and why people reward terrible Star Wars films. Awful Transformers films. Why Fartnite is such a hit is it's such an excellent well crafted POS. Why AAAAAAA industry is doing so well despite most AAAAAAAA games being a money-grubbing pile of shit. People follow brands, not quality. Otherwise, FFXV would be a failure. TLOUII would tank for its trash writing and laughable attempt at morality. Why Skyward Sword and Mario Kart Wii sold well or people buying those terrible NSMB games. Why modern WWE gets 2 million people to watch per week even tho it's trash. Why reality shows exist. Why people pay high prices to buy Supreme garbage. People follow brands.

Once again both Sony and MS were

You thinking it is boring or whatever is your right, but trying to deny data that show public perception was favorable and then calling other one biased for it is very bad on you.

They reward mediocrity. whoopee. The number is not the end-all. Just tells a part.  You really think even a 3rd of those people care about Demon Souls or will be playing NBA2k $70 with MTX. It will be NBA2k



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src on 13 August 2020
Leynos said:
src said:

Excellence is often rewarded even more in society. Seems like your perception simply does not line up with reality.

By an measurable objective metric, ratings post conference, views, likes, consumer sentiment, PS5's event was a slam dunk.

Yeah with a Playstation avatar I'm sure you have no bias. Yes, that's why modern music is so shit yet so popular and why people reward terrible Star Wars films. Awful Transformers films. Why Fartnite is such a hit is it's such an excellent well crafted POS. Why AAAAAAA industry is doing so well despite most AAAAAAAA games being a money-grubbing pile of shit. People follow brands, not quality. Otherwise, FFXV would be a failure. TLOUII would tank for its trash writing and laughable attempt at morality. Why Skyward Sword and Mario Kart Wii sold well or people buying those terrible NSMB games. Why modern WWE gets 2 million people to watch per week even tho it's trash. Why reality shows exist. Why people pay high prices to buy Supreme garbage. People follow brands.

Once again both Sony and MS were

All this tells us is that you're out of touch with reality. Data doesn't lie.



Leynos on 13 August 2020

Sure whatever. Bye.

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src on 17 September 2020

Update with the new PS5 event:

Sept Event | Reveal Event

Youtube (concurrent viewers): 1.2M | 2M
Twitch (PS channel) : 377k | 1.01M
Twitch (all channels) : 2.14M | 3.05M
Twitter (PS account) : 434k (<1 day) | 323k

Hardware reveal youtube views:

SW: 44 million

PS4: 39 million

PS5: 32 million

XSX: 14 million

XB1: 8 million


Expected smaller viewership for the secondary event but Playstation's metrics are in another league compared to Xbox or Nintendo.
The price reveal on Twitter has broken gaming records and will most likely go on to become the most liked gaming tweet of all time (it already is from an official account).

Last edited by src - on 17 September 2020

fauzman on 17 September 2020

I am especially interested in the youtube viewing stats you put up for the PS4/5 & One X/series X. You can see that there was a huge difference in the views for the PS4 compared with One X. For the PS5 and series X, the PS5 is still leading in views but the gap is a gair bit closer. Thus reinforces the impression (IMO) that while the PS5 will will this gen, the series X will be considerably more competitive than last gen.



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src on 20 September 2020
fauzman said:
I am especially interested in the youtube viewing stats you put up for the PS4/5 & One X/series X. You can see that there was a huge difference in the views for the PS4 compared with One X. For the PS5 and series X, the PS5 is still leading in views but the gap is a gair bit closer. Thus reinforces the impression (IMO) that while the PS5 will will this gen, the series X will be considerably more competitive than last gen.

Thats just the views for the reveal video. Bear in mind, these videos can be run as ads, and so can be misleading. Its easy to spot an ad by the likes to views ratio over time.

If you look at the entire social media view, PS5's metrics are around 4x greater than XSX, and considering these social media sites lean heavily to American populations (to a lesser extent European), this does not bode well for XSX.

The gap is bigger.



Norion on 20 September 2020
src said:

Update with the new PS5 event:

Sept Event | Reveal Event

Youtube (concurrent viewers): 1.2M | 2M
Twitch (PS channel) : 377k | 1.01M
Twitch (all channels) : 2.14M | 3.05M
Twitter (PS account) : 434k (<1 day) | 323k

Hardware reveal youtube views:

SW: 44 million

PS4: 39 million

PS5: 32 million

XSX: 14 million

XB1: 8 million


Expected smaller viewership for the secondary event but Playstation's metrics are in another league compared to Xbox or Nintendo.
The price reveal on Twitter has broken gaming records and will most likely go on to become the most liked gaming tweet of all time (it already is from an official account).

With how well incredibly well the Switch is doing right now could this not mean that these metrics aren't that predictive? They'll have some predictive power for sure but I don't know how much exactly.



LGBTDBZBBQ on 20 September 2020
Norion said:
src said:

Update with the new PS5 event:

Sept Event | Reveal Event

Youtube (concurrent viewers): 1.2M | 2M
Twitch (PS channel) : 377k | 1.01M
Twitch (all channels) : 2.14M | 3.05M
Twitter (PS account) : 434k (<1 day) | 323k

Hardware reveal youtube views:

SW: 44 million

PS4: 39 million

PS5: 32 million

XSX: 14 million

XB1: 8 million


Expected smaller viewership for the secondary event but Playstation's metrics are in another league compared to Xbox or Nintendo.
The price reveal on Twitter has broken gaming records and will most likely go on to become the most liked gaming tweet of all time (it already is from an official account).

With how well incredibly well the Switch is doing right now could this not mean that these metrics aren't that predictive? They'll have some predictive power for sure but I don't know how much exactly.



Mario Kart 8 Deluxe = 26.74 million units
Animal Crossing = 22.4 million units
Zelda BOTW = 20 million units
Smash Bros Ultimate = 19.99 million units 
Super Mario Odyssey = 18.06 million units 
God Of War 2018 = ~10 million units
Final Fantasy 7 Remake = 5 million units
The last of US 2 = 4 million units

Last edited by LGBTDBZBBQ - on 20 September 2020