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LGBTDBZBBQ said:
Norion said:

With how well incredibly well the Switch is doing right now could this not mean that these metrics aren't that predictive? They'll have some predictive power for sure but I don't know how much exactly.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe = 26.74 million units
Animal Crossing = 22.4 million units
Zelda BOTW = 20 million units
Smash Bros Ultimate = 19.99 million units 
Super Mario Odyssey = 18.06 million units 
God Of War 2018 = ~10 million units
Final Fantasy 7 Remake = 5 million units
The last of US 2 = 4 million units

He did mention that AC broke records on Twitter and Reddit so Youtube isn't the only aspect. It's specifically his comment on Playstation's metrics being in another league compared to Nintendo's that stuck out to me and made me wonder how predictive these metrics are exactly. I truly don't know how predictive they are.



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Norion said:
LGBTDBZBBQ said:

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe = 26.74 million units
Animal Crossing = 22.4 million units
Zelda BOTW = 20 million units
Smash Bros Ultimate = 19.99 million units 
Super Mario Odyssey = 18.06 million units 
God Of War 2018 = ~10 million units
Final Fantasy 7 Remake = 5 million units
The last of US 2 = 4 million units

He did mention that AC broke records on Twitter and Reddit so Youtube isn't the only aspect. It's specifically his comment on Playstation's metrics being in another league compared to Nintendo's that stuck out to me and made me wonder how predictive these metrics are exactly. I truly don't know how predictive they are.

Well, Mario direct has more viewers than the latest PS5 showcase 

and the latest partner direct has 1 million views despite Nintendo already deleted the stream version with ~450k concurrent views for US and ~400k for NintendoJP. If the stream version wasn't deleted perhaps the number is already above 2 million views for mini partner direct

Nintendo has always deleted the streams version of Nintendo direct video with a couple of exceptions like treehouse e3 videos and replaced it with the good quality version right after the stream version ended while Playstation just left it. 





Streamed videos = more views inflated by concurrent views during the show and Nintendo deleted that kind of videos. 

Last edited by LGBTDBZBBQ - on 20 September 2020

LGBTDBZBBQ said:
Norion said:

He did mention that AC broke records on Twitter and Reddit so Youtube isn't the only aspect. It's specifically his comment on Playstation's metrics being in another league compared to Nintendo's that stuck out to me and made me wonder how predictive these metrics are exactly. I truly don't know how predictive they are.

Well, Mario direct has more viewers than the latest PS5 showcase 

and the latest partner direct has 1 million views despite Nintendo already deleted the stream version with ~450k concurrent views for US and ~400k for NintendoJP. If the stream version wasn't deleted perhaps the number is already above 2 million views for mini partner direct

Nintendo has always deleted the streams version of Nintendo direct video with a couple of exceptions like treehouse e3 videos and replaced it with the good quality version right after the stream version ended while Playstation just left it. 





Streamed videos = more views inflated by concurrent views during the show and Nintendo deleted that kind of videos. 

Something to keep in mind is the uploads of the PS5 showcase by channels such as IGN have way more views than the uploads of the Mario direct by those same channels so the difference isn't that large overall. That point about Nintendo deleting those videos is good and I didn't consider that.



Nintendo deleting streams actually cut their views more than half most of the time.

Either way, youtube views don’t translate to sales lol. Esp Sony games. I hate to say it but most people would rather WATCH Sony games on YouTube than buy them. Especially walkthroughs.



Nintendo is hugely behind Playstation in numerous metrics :

Youtube concurrent viewers
Youtube subscribers
Twitch concurrent viewers
Twitter followers
Instagram followers

They are notably beating Playstation in :

Reddit community subs

What seems equal:

Twitter engagement metrics

Although a recent PS tweet just hit 500k+ likes.

The trick with social media metrics is knowing which audience segment they relate to and how different that is to the market reality. For instance, if product A beats B in a metric that is largely followed by sector X, but sector X is a small proportion of the market then the metric is not going to match real performance.

Should be common sense but I see some posts clearly defying it.



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Youtube views and pretty much social media views and likes are a joke to predict sales


12 million units sold


18 million units sold



~2 million units sold(all versions)


11 million units sold





You continue to ignore that youtube views can be propped by ads (to which you have not checked), or how as numerous people have told you, we are using multiple social media metrics not just one.

You're clearly upset that Nintendo is getting handily beat by Playstation while offering no analytical intuition.



src said:
You continue to ignore that youtube views can be propped by ads (to which you have not checked), or how as numerous people have told you, we are using multiple social media metrics not just one.

You're clearly upset that Nintendo is getting handily beat by Playstation while offering no analytical intuition.

hmm getting personal to validate your stance doesn't strengthen the point.
and the switch is doing so bad on social media its like it fell off a cliff and the sales represent that so well



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kirby007 said:
src said:
You continue to ignore that youtube views can be propped by ads (to which you have not checked), or how as numerous people have told you, we are using multiple social media metrics not just one.

You're clearly upset that Nintendo is getting handily beat by Playstation while offering no analytical intuition.

hmm getting personal to validate your stance doesn't strengthen the point.
and the switch is doing so bad on social media its like it fell off a cliff and the sales represent that so well

SW is not doing bad on social media. It gets very high youtube views, youtube concurrent views, reddit subs and twitter likes.

As said previously, AC broke social media records on twitter and reddit.

Its just not doing as well as Playstation, though it easily beats Xbox.



Sony continues their metric record breaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TBPrYJDoDE

UI= 12M views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtMzV73NAgk&t=1s

MKBHD reviews = 11M +, overtakes iPhone 12

Teardown = 9.3M, most viewed teardown of an electronic of all time.

Last edited by src - on 08 November 2020