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Forums - Sales Discussion - April NPD 2020: Switch 808k, PS4 411k, XB1 329k

trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

I wonder what % of Just Dance 2020's sales were the Wii version. It's still so insane to be that we got a retail release for the original Wii in late 2019.

It'd be interesting to see a platform breakdown for it. Obviously the Switch would lead but would be very keen to see how Wii compares to PS4/Xbone.

Just Dance 2020 is on the Wii?! There are people that still play the Wii AND play it for the latest Just Dance? 

Yep: https://www.amazon.com.au/Just-Dance-2020-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B07SG1521N



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DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Right. I’m not denying the reasons, I’m excited at the results and potential for next gen. If price is a major factor then Series S will go a long ways for the casual market. Not for me, but that’s what Series X is for.  

It will all depends on the price and spec of Series S to not be a bad option against PS5... because if price is close and performance is to weak then it will mostly increase the value of PS5 instead of being a good budget option. I'm very excited and curious to what will be the price of the 3 systems and spec of S.

Ya it’d have to be $200 gap to make a difference. If it can play the same big name multiplats without too much of a sacrifice in resolution and FPS then it’s gonna be a hit. 



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trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

Yep: https://www.amazon.com.au/Just-Dance-2020-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B07SG1521N

That is crazy. I wonder what is the most amount of years between a console's release and/or discontinuation and when the final game gets a release on it.

I think Just Dance will break the record of Fifa and PES on PS2.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

For reference the last releases per relevant console (will count discontinuation at the time the successor arrived)
NES (83 to 90) had Warrio Woods in 95 - so 12 years after launch or 5 years after discontinuation
SNES (90 to 96) to Star Fox 2 in 2017 via the classic, or Fire Emblem in 2000 - So last real game was 10 years after launch or 4 years after discontinuation
N64 (96 to 2001) Tony Hawks 3 in 2003 or 7 years after launch 2 years after discontinuation.
GC (2001 to 2006) Madden NFL 2008 in 2007 or 6 years after launch 1 year after discontinuation (worse support for Nintendo in consoles)
Wii (2006 to 2012) - Still receives Just Dance so at least 14 years after launch or 8 years after discontinuation
PS1 (94 to 2000) - Black/Matrix 2004 or 10 years after launch and 4 years after discontinuation
PS2 (2000 to 2007) - Fifa 14 in 2013 or 13 years after launch and 7 years after discontinuation (best for Sony, bested by Just Dance)
PS3 (2006 to 2013) - Fifa 19 in 2018 or 12 years after launch and 5 years after discontinuation
Master System (85 to 88, but still in production in Brazil) - Sonic in 92 and Smurfs in 96 so 7 to 11 years after launch and 4 to 8 years after discontinuation
Mega Drive (88 to 94 ) Batman Forever 95 or Tanglewood 2018 so 7 years after launch 1 year after discontinuation or 30 years after launch and 26 years after discontinuation (record???)
Saturn (94 to 98) Primal Rage in 98 so 4 years after launch and on the year of discontinuation
Dreamcast (98 to 2001) NHL 2K in 2002 so 4 years after launch and 1 year after discontinuation... so Sega is the worse supporter for consoles
Xbox (2001 to 2005) Madden NFL 2009 in 2008 so 7 years after launch and 3 years after discontinuation
X360 (2005 to 2013) Just Dance 19 in 2018 so 13 years after launch and 5 years after discontinuation.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
For reference the last releases per relevant console (will count discontinuation at the time the successor arrived)
NES (83 to 90) had Warrio Woods in 95 - so 12 years after launch or 5 years after discontinuation
SNES (90 to 96) to Star Fox 2 in 2017 via the classic, or Fire Emblem in 2000 - So last real game was 10 years after launch or 4 years after discontinuation
N64 (96 to 2001) Tony Hawks 3 in 2003 or 7 years after launch 2 years after discontinuation.
GC (2001 to 2006) Madden NFL 2008 in 2007 or 6 years after launch 1 year after discontinuation (worse support for Nintendo in consoles)
Wii (2006 to 2012) - Still receives Just Dance so at least 14 years after launch or 8 years after discontinuation
PS1 (94 to 2000) - Black/Matrix 2004 or 10 years after launch and 4 years after discontinuation
PS2 (2000 to 2007) - Fifa 14 in 2013 or 13 years after launch and 7 years after discontinuation (best for Sony, bested by Just Dance)
PS3 (2006 to 2013) - Fifa 19 in 2018 or 12 years after launch and 5 years after discontinuation
Master System (85 to 88, but still in production in Brazil) - Sonic in 92 and Smurfs in 96 so 7 to 11 years after launch and 4 to 8 years after discontinuation
Mega Drive (88 to 94 ) Batman Forever 95 or Tanglewood 2018 so 7 years after launch 1 year after discontinuation or 30 years after launch and 26 years after discontinuation (record???)
Saturn (94 to 98) Primal Rage in 98 so 4 years after launch and on the year of discontinuation
Dreamcast (98 to 2001) NHL 2K in 2002 so 4 years after launch and 1 year after discontinuation... so Sega is the worse supporter for consoles
Xbox (2001 to 2005) Madden NFL 2009 in 2008 so 7 years after launch and 3 years after discontinuation
X360 (2005 to 2013) Just Dance 19 in 2018 so 13 years after launch and 5 years after discontinuation.

I believe Ps2 slightly beats Wii. 

I believe Pro Evo 2014 released on Ps2 November 2013. So about 13.5 years since it's Japan release.

Just Dance 2020 released November 2019. So that would be 13 years.

A Just dance 2021 would give Wii the win though.



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I’m astonished at the overall numbers for all 3 companies for the last 2 months!
I expected the video game industry along with the music industry to thrive off of the pandemic but seeing the actual numbers for the hardware and software being this high and breaking all time monthly records for each respective console is insane and exciting :))



Mar1217 said:
Can't wait for May numbers hehehe !

Why? I can give you a spoiler, Switch broke record for that month, PS4 still selling great even on last year, Xbox doing much better than last year.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

Yep: https://www.amazon.com.au/Just-Dance-2020-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B07SG1521N

That is crazy. I wonder what is the most amount of years between a console's release and/or discontinuation and when the final game gets a release on it.

Super Nintendo.... Star Fox 2 came out in 2018 ;)



Shadow1980 said:

Chart time!

The past two months were the biggest non-holiday months ever in the U.S. in terms of same-gen hardware sales (excluding pure handhelds), as reckoned by the NPD, with over 1.5M units. It was also the best April ever for any PlayStation or Xbox system, as well as the second-best non-holiday month for the PS4 and tied with Oct. 2016 for the XBO's best non-holiday month.

April is usually one of the worst months of the year for hardware sales, and with these charts you can see just how out of the ordinary these sales are for all three current systems, especially compared to their usual April performances.

More charts to come later. I have to go to work.

Do we have launch align numbers? NSW should be ahead of ps4 I think and maybe ltd



Why are Nintendo 1st party game digital sales not included ?