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Conina said:
Dulfite said:

The rest of the world, to my knowledge, doesn't value statehood like we do in America. We are really 50 nations bonded together as one United grouping.

You are wrong. Germany is also a federalistic state.

I did say to my knowledge, meaning I wasn't 100% certain. I'm curious what specific powers the German states retain vs their federal Government? I honestly don't know.



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Dulfite said:
super_etecoon said:
If this was any country other than the US I couldn't do as well. I might be ok at Canada, and maybe a bit of Mexico, but I would fail miserably at any other country. I wonder, probably wrongly, if the world knows more US states than Americans know of their states. I also wonder if California might be the most well known state in the world. Again, most of this is probably because of my western (and Californian) bias.

The rest of the world, to my knowledge, doesn't value statehood like we do in America. We are really 50 nations bonded together as one United grouping. That's how we started out as,how we were until civil war, and honestly how we still are.

We are bound to the Constitution which requires supermajority of states voting to change. States still have national guards and militias. The concept of the Senate is founded on the idea that states will perpetually have significant weight in government. Otherwise San Francisco, New York City, and Chicago would shove their liberal views down the throats of rural America with no concern for the values of the people there. Even becoming a state is extremely difficult because of how valued it is. 

This isn't a politics thread guys, let's leave the political stuff like the bolded at the door.



     

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Mnementh said:
super_etecoon said:
If this was any country other than the US I couldn't do as well. I might be ok at Canada, and maybe a bit of Mexico, but I would fail miserably at any other country. I wonder, probably wrongly, if the world knows more US states than Americans know of their states. I also wonder if California might be the most well known state in the world. Again, most of this is probably because of my western (and Californian) bias.
ruffy37 said:
I can't even do the german bundesländer, even as german, if needed for school, I knew them, if I need to get somewhere, I check and know it for a short time, some days later I already forget them.

Well, give it a try

I could do decent with the list of states available to me.

As for OP: I can easily do all the states and even most of the capital cities. Countries are also pretty easy, but some I would need a list for, just because remembering 180 countries is difficult.



F.e. every state has their own school system. The federal government or the German parliament can't make decisions in that area.

Federal laws of the German parliament "Bundestag" have to be approved by the "Bundesrat", which is similar to the US senate.



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cycycychris said:
Dulfite said:

The rest of the world, to my knowledge, doesn't value statehood like we do in America. We are really 50 nations bonded together as one United grouping. That's how we started out as,how we were until civil war, and honestly how we still are.

We are bound to the Constitution which requires supermajority of states voting to change. States still have national guards and militias. The concept of the Senate is founded on the idea that states will perpetually have significant weight in government. Otherwise San Francisco, New York City, and Chicago would shove their liberal views down the throats of rural America with no concern for the values of the people there. Even becoming a state is extremely difficult because of how valued it is. 

This isn't a politics thread guys, let's leave the political stuff like the bolded at the door.

I really wasn't trying to trigger anyone, sorry. I'd have said conservative mega cities as well, but there aren't any. Liberals tend to live in major cities and conservatives tend to be spread out in the countryside.

Anyway, I was just trying to prove why states in the US are so important and powerful in comparison to at least most of the rest of the world's federal systems. We could never have something like the recent election in UK happen because the Senate will probably always be balanced out with moderate swing votes or slightly leaning right due to the way it's all set up. I'm rather thankful we don't just have the House of Representatives as then a national election could bring in sweeping changes that hurt the Midwest (my home) simply based on what big city folks want.



Conina said:
F.e. every state has their own school system. The federal government or the German parliament can't make decisions in that area.

Federal laws of the German parliament "Bundestag" have to be approved by the "Bundesrat", which is similar to the US senate.

That's interesting, thanks for sharing!



mutantsushi said:


OK, here is my original guesses:

1 Baden-Wurtenburg 2 Bavaria 3 Berlin 4 Brandenburg 5 Hamburg 6 Bremen 7 HESSE? 8 Palatinate something? 9 North Rheinland Westfalia? 10 Cologne! 11 Frankfurt? 12 Saarland 13 Leipzig! 14 THURINGIA? 15 Schleswig-Holstein (they KNOW their cows) - ALMOST forgot that when I wrote others first 16 The famousest part of Germany


So, how did I do...?

1 CORRECT! 2 CORRECT! 3 CORRECT! 4 CORRECT! 5 Hamburg (swapped with Bremen, which I suspected) 6 Bremen (swapped with Hamburg, which I suspected) 7 CORRECT! (but misplaced it's capital) 8 Mecklenberg-Vorpommern (Merkelberg would be easier to remember, I think she's from there) 9 Lower Saxony (I think NRW made me think "NW") 10 North Rheinland Westphalia (swapped with Lower Saxony, largest city correct) 11 Rheinland-Palatinate (THERE'S the Palatinate! Frankfurt isn't in it, but is closest big city so 1/4 points?) 12 CORRECT! 13 Saxony (largest city correct) 14 Saxony-Anhalt (...now I Google what Anhalt means, "clue" WTF?) 15 CORRECT! 16 Thuringia (swapped with Saxony-Anhalt)

...so 7/16, or 9/16 if knowing biggest city counts. not bad for a gringo who doesn't speak german and hasn't even been to germany or europe. I knew that trying to guess without list of state names would make it harder, probably would have gotten several more with that... Still I feel lucky with Hesse, like I knew it was the name of a state, and the location felt reasonable, but wasn't really sure. (although if I had associated Frankfurt with Hesse, I probably would have screwed it up and switched them, but a win is a win...)

You're correct on merkelberg, she comes from where. Anhaltspunkt would be more like it translated to clue. The real reason for 'Anhalt' is that it is the name of a noble family who were heading this part back in time. Here is one of them:

And congrats, you did pretty well, about half right. Bremen and Hamburg is everyone switching up all the time.

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Dulfite said:
Conina said:

You are wrong. Germany is also a federalistic state.

I did say to my knowledge, meaning I wasn't 100% certain. I'm curious what specific powers the German states retain vs their federal Government? I honestly don't know.

Well, german states (Bundesland) aren't as independent as american states or Switzerlands cantons. They have no own taxes for instance, taxes are the same in the whole of germany. Many other stuff is central too.



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Mnementh said:
Dulfite said:

I did say to my knowledge, meaning I wasn't 100% certain. I'm curious what specific powers the German states retain vs their federal Government? I honestly don't know.

Well, german states (Bundesland) aren't as independent as american states or Switzerlands cantons. They have no own taxes for instance, taxes are the same in the whole of germany. Many other stuff is central too.

Not all taxes are the same in every German state. The Bavarian and Saxon real estate tax f.e. is much lower than in most other states.