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SvennoJ said:

Back on topic, current trends

Daily reported cases is holding steady world wide while Europe and USA are slowly starting to decline.
Daily reported deaths are declining in Europe while corrections in the USA still drive it upwards.
However while Russia is now already contributing 20% to the daily reported cases in Europe, their reported deaths (<2% of Europe) still lag behind and can drive up the reported deaths in Europe in a week or so.

Closer look at Europe

Russia is now on top for adding new cases each day, edging out the UK.
France did a big drop after working through corrections.
Sweden is still holding steady but has a lot of variation in test results.
Austria continues to go down the fastest.

The UK has been testing fewer people for the last 3 days so it's not surprising that their numbers were slowly getting better.



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Here in The Netherlands they’re starting an experiment with supplying blood plasma of patients that have been cured of Covid19, and thus contains antibodies, to patients in serious condition. The hope is that the sick person’s body will copy the injected antibodies and improve a patients sickness. They’ll be administering these antibodies to 426 patients.



drkohler said:
KiigelHeart said:

.. but doctors said testing dead bodies is unreliable and they won't do it.. 

No. Doctors are scared shit about cutting up dead covid bodies. The local university hospital has done post mortems on 20 bodies (surgeons volunteered) which had serious conditions and found covid viruses everywhere, in masses. So this is very dangerous thing to do. Until recently, the WHO advised against doing it. In a nutshell, it was seen that giving the oxygen treatment was useless in all 20 cases as the lungs were incapable of taking up enough oxygen.

Nonsense. There's only one reported infection from a dead person so far. It's techically possible but unlikely. Forensic pathologists know how to protect themselves, they examine bodies with more dangerous diseases. They do autopsies to bodies that may be infected. 



SvennoJ said:

“This is not like a disease we have seen before,” said internal medicine specialist Dr. Jamie Spiegelman. He says COVID-19 does not behave like a regular pneumonia, making medical management “unpredictable and day by day we have to change what we do."

There are even signs the disease may be causing heart inflammation, kidney disease, blood clots and liver problems.

...

“People are not getting better quickly, and they are on breathing machines for a very long time,” she said.
“We don't have any treatments, all we can do is support the body with the machines we have and hope the body itself recovers from the disease."

...


“You know the fact that only a tiny percentage of the population has had this at this point, so we're still looking at many months going on,” said Dr. Michael Gardam, chief of staff.

“The economic impact of that is going to be astounding.”

...

Stay home, don't listen to herd immunity BS, this needs to be stopped.

^ this is the important stuff.



^ usa has a "mild" version of coronavirus that isnt as deadly as the strain europe has.

Also its likely that actual deaths, are twice the current 45,000+ number currently.
Theres so many unreported, not diagnosed deaths, from this thing, at home/hospic/nurseing homes ect.

9/11 attack, was around 2900+ people.
This virus, which likely only has infected ~3% of the population (usa) has already been confirmed to have killed 45,000+ people (perphaps x2 that).

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JRPGfan said:

^ this is the important stuff.



^ usa has a "mild" version of coronavirus that isnt as deadly as the strain europe has.

Also its likely that actual deaths, are twice the current 45,000+ number currently.
Theres so many unreported, not diagnosed deaths, from this thing, at home/hospic/nurseing homes ect.

9/11 attack, was around 2900+ people.
This virus, which likely only has infected ~3% of the population (usa) has already been confirmed to have killed 45,000+ people (perphaps x2 that).

Which is not surprising after reading this bit:

Outside the ICU, COVID-19 patients who are less severely ill are still closely watched in case stable breathing turns into a crisis. That can happen within seconds, says nurse Ayotunde Ajiboye.

Staying home is not the best course of action. At first I thought those videos of people dropping down in the street were over exaggerated or rare exceptions, but if that's what's being observed in hospitals as well, scary stuff.



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S.Peelman said:
Here in The Netherlands they’re starting an experiment with supplying blood plasma of patients that have been cured of Covid19, and thus contains antibodies, to patients in serious condition. The hope is that the sick person’s body will copy the injected antibodies and improve a patients sickness. They’ll be administering these antibodies to 426 patients.

Same thing here, initial test with 1,000 patients. Hopefully it helps

https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/canadian-clinical-trial-tests-old-plasma-therapy-for-covid-19/

The study is expected to be carried out in every province, and likely each territory. The initial number of people involved is approximately 1,000 patients.

“When people have recovered from COVID-19 infection, we are hoping they will donate a unit of plasma which is essentially the clear portion of blood where all the antibodies are,” said Arnold, an associate professor of medicine and the director of the McMaster Centre for Transfusion Research.


The more places try this the more accurate the results.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-52373888

There is the beginnings of the famine. It'll expand from there and rebound on the west as these countries stop producing for us, although we'll be hit much slower I'd imagine with a lot more leeway to get ourselves producing and distrubuting food. Hopefully for most of our nations, Goverment control of food and some unsatisfied or slighlty hungry bellies is all we'll have to deal with this year. 

As for war, the outlines of the begginings are starting to show and not small skirmishs in poor countries either. To early to point to anything specific being reported but the last few days the outlines have started to become opaque in the media which lags behind reality. I hope that bitch Donald Trump can keep his bitch mouth in line and his bitch attitude from destabilizing western alliances. Also, I'm hopong our great leader Xi and the CCP are going to rethink using this situation as a power grab because it looks a lot like an admission of guilt and cause to rally for war against China esspecially when these mother fuckers played cyber warfare with the US people to cause panic of the virus before lockdown. China looks like golliath right now and the US looks like a a bead of sweat on Davids ball sack even with those two destroyers in the south China sea, thenonly thing that has weakened China these last few weeks has been their Racism in mcdonalds which has caused 2 billion in industrial damage in African countries from protesters. Poor Africans done more against them than all of the US's hardware, big machinery and cyber tech since they started making moves. 



 

China Numba wan!!

In other news....the sky is falling !!!!....run for your lives !!!



Nighthawk117 said:
In other news....the sky is falling !!!!....run for your lives !!!

Indeed. 



 

China Numba wan!!

John2290 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-52373888

There is the beginnings of the famine. It'll expand from there and rebound on the west as these countries stop producing for us, although we'll be hit much slower I'd imagine with a lot more leeway to get ourselves producing and distrubuting food. Hopefully for most of our nations, Goverment control of food and some unsatisfied or slighlty hungry bellies is all we'll have to deal with this year. 

As for war, the outlines of the begginings are starting to show and not small skirmishs in poor countries either. To early to point to anything specific being reported but the last few days the outlines have started to become opaque in the media which lags behind reality. I hope that bitch Donald Trump can keep his bitch mouth in line and his bitch attitude from destabilizing western alliances. Also, I'm hopong our great leader Xi and the CCP are going to rethink using this situation as a power grab because it looks a lot like an admission of guilt and cause to rally for war against China esspecially when these mother fuckers played cyber warfare with the US people to cause panic of the virus before lockdown. China looks like golliath right now and the US looks like a a bead of sweat on Davids ball sack even with those two destroyers in the south China sea, thenonly thing that has weakened China these last few weeks has been their Racism in mcdonalds which has caused 2 billion in industrial damage in African countries from protesters. Poor Africans done more against them than all of the US's hardware, big machinery and cyber tech since they started making moves. 

Sounds like a very easy problem to overcome. We just wait until a hundred thousand or so people die, then blame the UN and cut funding. Problem solved.

The WFP is obviously heavily influenced by China  which wants them to collect more money so they buy more rice. So how can we even believe them?



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