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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
shikamaru317 said:

Google was reportedly looking to both build up 1st party studios and buy 1st party studios a year ago. Today's rumors also say they have possibly lined up some Sega exclusives. 

Sega exclusives

Because those sold Wii Us

Also, if they're locked to just that console and won't be sold on PC, that'd be such an amazing way for SEGA to actively shoot both their feet in terms of alienating support from not only the other consoles, but PC as well. It'll be like Epic all over again. 



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Sony has already been Appled once with Walkman-Ipod.

MS is currently getting Appled and Googled.

Given how Sony 'Appled and Googled' Nintendo, this is kind of ironic.

As someone who loves the console wars, I can't wait to see Apple/Google crash against Nintendo's rocks.



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Sounds good but I need official confirmation and details... What day is this press conference Google is having?



Mar1217 said:
konnichiwa said:
If they can have also games from google play store on it they may have already a big lineup.

I mean most people play these because they're on their phones most of time. I'm pretty sure this specific demographic isn't interested as much in console gaming since the Wii days.

Also, most apps aren't aiming to be meaningful/ full fledge experiences like your usual console/PC games. Though a nice thing, I hope they won't make it their "ace" as for marketing strategy.

Sure but it also has some retro games and some games people love.  With google play store they have hundred millions accounts and tens of millions of people who invested in them.  It is maybe not for us but it doesn't hurt to have them.






shikamaru317 said:
Mar1217 said:

Entering a market that has already 3 strong competitors which one of those dominates Europe, while another one has the portable crowd and Japan by the balls with a strong presence in America.
Unless they plan on ditching Microsoft from their spot, I don't see them lasting long.

(1) According to rumors, that is Google's plan, they plan to gun for Microsoft's spot. That is also reportedly why Microsoft's Satya Nadella gave the Xbox division a much bigger budget last year, which they have used to purchase multiple 1st party studios, Microsoft knows that Google is gunning for Xbox and they plan to fight them off. Google doesn't plan to give up without a fight though it seems, there are rumors of them buying 1st party studios as well, and now we have this rumor that they plan to moneyhat some 3rd party exclusives from older, dormant IP's, including several dormant Sega IP's. 

(2) I suspect that the rumored Microsoft-Nintendo partnership is because of the rumors of Google entering the market as well, Microsoft and Nintendo know they are stronger together if Google guns for either of them.

(3) It is also worth noting that MS and Google aren't just fighting a console battle this gen, they are also playing the long game, with both of them introducing their streaming services, Microsoft's xCloud and Google's Project Stream. They are both laying the groundwork for future gaming generations after traditional consoles die, as internet infrastructure improves more and more people are going to be moving toward streaming, and both MS and Google want to make sure that they will be the market leader when it comes to game streaming services. Amazon is reportedly working on a game streaming service as well, they intend to battle it out with MS and Google in that market as well. Google designing a console is more about pulling people into their gaming ecosystem and towards their streaming service than it is about actually competing against the other consoles.

(1) Oh, so there is blood in the water. That's good for gamers. If the competition has the knifes out, they tend to compete strongly for consumers wallets.

(2) I personally would love Nintendo and MS to work more closely together. Still I don't see it from the current rumours. Only that they not walking over each others toes.

(3) This could mean Google intends to stay longer (and so is MS) and they are willing to take losses. Again, good thing for us consumers, as we probably get more games out of this.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
A lot of buzz this year about new consoles. Obviously Microsoft and Sony are preparing for something soon. Now Google is throwing their hat in.

The thing about console gaming is that it seems to have only supported 3 home consoles at a time:
Gen 3: Nintendo, Sega, Atari
Gen 4: Nintendo, Sega, NEC
Gen 5: Nintendo, Sega, Sony
Gen 6: Nintendo, Sony, Sega/Microsoft*
Gen 7-8: Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft

There is always just 3. (*In gen 6, Sega left about the time Microsoft came in.) If Google comes in, then it is likely that someone else will have to leave. Of course this could just be Google themselves. I mean Ouya technically was a thing, but never really gained traction. Google could end up being a similar footnote in gaming history. They could also kick Microsoft out of the market. There is also a chance they kick Sony out, if the stars align against Sony (i.e. they screw up PS5 like they did PS3). Nintendo is the only one 100% safe, because they are the only one selling to handheld gamers.

Looks like the home console market is going to have some serious competition this time around.

I am not agreeing. You leave out the first two gens, which were a pretty convoluted mess. You conviniently forget the 3DO, the Apple Pippin, the PC-FX, the NeoGeo or the Atari Jaguar. Well, N64, PS1, Saturn, Pippin, Jaguar, PC-FX and 3do in one generation would pretty much shatter your theory. But you could argue that less consoles were relevant. But this also means the Atari 7800 in third gen or the PCEngine (TurboGrafx) and Supergrafx in fourth gen wouldn't make the cut. The reality is more, that the market sustains only few relevant consoles, but others always try. Sometimes it works, like for MS and Sony. I would even argue Sony grew the market (with opening up the european market and expanding in more countries in the world) so that in the long run it could sustain three consoles. Maybe somethign similar happens. With China and India possibly becoming strong markets maybe a fourth competitor is sustainable.



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 I would even argue Sony grew the market (with opening up the european market and expanding in more countries in the world) so that in the long run it could sustain three consoles. Maybe somethign similar happens. With China and India possibly becoming strong markets maybe a fourth competitor is sustainable.

Ronald Reagan and David Hasselhoff did more to open the european market than Sony did. Sony was better positioned and was able to take better advantage.

I think it's very unlikely that China or India will make the next Android/iOS in the next 50 years. India might start manufacturing them instead of China but the only way they'll dominate consoles is if they copy Nintendo and build another House of M.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Sony has already been Appled once with Walkman-Ipod.

MS is currently getting Appled and Googled.

Given how Sony 'Appled and Googled' Nintendo, this is kind of ironic.

As someone who loves the console wars, I can't wait to see Apple/Google crash against Nintendo's rocks.

MS is fine - Apple has only around 7% marketshare when it comes to computers and it's declining, and MS has more than enough resources and tech to counter Google when it comes to game streaming services.



Finally another controller emulating the DualShock scheme more than the Xbox. Curious about some of those buttons. Fair bet that the 'mic' button is for voice commands and probably Google Assistant. That center button is more curious, though. Fingerprint reader? Steam controller-esque touchpad?

Gonna be an interesting few years if the rumors are true.

shikamaru317 said:

somebody has made a render of the controller based on the illustration, and it does not look good at all, poor ergonomics, non-textured analog sticks that are too small, and controversial parallel sticks instead of offset sticks:

Based on that diagram, that render isn't to scale at all. The whole body in general looks much better proportioned in the drawing. The sticks are considerably larger and there's no implication that the nubs aren't textured. If anything, they look nearly identical to the DS4's own sticks, possibly even using them as placeholders in their prototype. I never understood some peoples' preference for offset sticks, either; are your hands asymmetrical?

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HoloDust said:

MS is fine - Apple has only around 7% marketshare when it comes to computers 

What's your definition of computers?



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MS - 847Bn
Apple - 815Bn
Sony - 58Bn
Alphabet - 1150Bn

Total - 2.87Tn

Nearly 3 Trillion in market cap and they still can't make a Mario Kart or Pokemon.



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