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Errorist76 said:
Jranation said:

It wont. Because it will not benefit Sony and Nintendo fans. 

 

You're right, it would benefit XBox players. A bit hypocritical to dismiss that, don't you think?

 

Mr Puggsly said: 

Yeah, so if you want Fortnite with crossplay and without an online subscription than I would highly suggest a PS4.

But again, its the lack of cross play on the PS4 version you couldn't buy your way around. There was no option until Sony relinquished.

What's happening here is people are now attacking MS because Sony FINALLY gave up a bad policy.

Unless the whole thing was just constructed in order to hurt Sony PR wise (was it?) and that's why everyone was into it so much, it's just fair to point at the one pointing with a huge red "ANTI-CONSUMER" arrow at Sony having their own anti-consumer measures in place. At least if you'd want to have a fair discussion and are really interested in what's best for consumers.

I dont get what you mean? You asked if people would start noticing about Fortnite behind the Gold Paywall. 

And I said No. 



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Errorist76 said:
KLAMarine said:

I'm not convinced. PS was effectively hijacking accounts merely by the act of associating the account with PS thereby locking it away from use on a Switch. Meanwhile, on XB1, the association can take place without fear of having the account locked away from the Switch. I completely agree it's shameful for XBox to lock f2p behind their paywall but at least people didn't have to fear XBox would render a Fortnite account unusable on a Switch.

So you at least admit it was all about cross-progression in Fortnite in truth, NOT cross-play. Great. Not that we didn't know this before.

Cross-play, at least for me, is a very nice thing to have but not vital.

Players having their Fortnite accounts compromised was utter bull and I'm happy to see Sony reversing course on this matter.



Jranation said:
Dr.Vita said:
What are the chances to see games like Call of Duty or even Dark Souls to follow this path?

This started because there seems to be a lot of Switch owners who also have a PS4 or Xbox One or PC. Once Fortnite came out on Switch. They realize that they couldnt use their PS4 account on the Switch, and couldn't play with PS4 owners. 

 

Sooo if we go the same routine, Switch will be the key to ending this issue. 

The demand for Cross Play was already huge before the Switch version even came out. Doubt that the Switch community really had an impact on this decision.



Dr.Vita said:
Jranation said:

This started because there seems to be a lot of Switch owners who also have a PS4 or Xbox One or PC. Once Fortnite came out on Switch. They realize that they couldnt use their PS4 account on the Switch, and couldn't play with PS4 owners. 

 

Sooo if we go the same routine, Switch will be the key to ending this issue. 

The demand for Cross Play was already huge before the Switch version even came out. Doubt that the Switch community really had an impact on this decision.

Well, it changed the framing. Before every console platfrom had crossplay with the platforms of the same manufacturer and PC, maybe mobile. Cross-platform between consoles didn't exist. Therefore in result XboX and PS4 looked the same, as the result was similar. Now with Switch this changed. Now consumers saw for the first time, that inter-console crossplay is possible. Also it made PS4 and Xbox different, as now Xbox had an additional platform to connect to. And it showed in result, that Sony was the one blocking. MS marketing understood the possibility and used it. Don't get me wrong: I think crossplay is something that ultimately benefits the consumer (and the 3rd-party game devs, that make multiplatform titles). But it still was also a marketing battle. One that turned out for our benefit, which is good.



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KLAMarine said:
EricHiggin said:

For those who could actually attain a Fortnite account on XB1...

Are they just to be shunned like the 'poor peasants' they 'must be' if they can't afford a measly $60 for a free game?

No but everyone has their price. If someone isn't cool with XBox policy, I advise they go to PS, Switch, or PC. If someone is okay with it, who am I to tell them how they should spend their money?

You made the point about locking the Fortnite accounts down, which locked you into a PS4 for good basically, but you also thought PS was anti consumer for not allowing cross play and cross accounts, which meant you would have to spend $299 on a PS4, to be able to play with your friends within the PS ecosystem.

Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite? What about if you've already spent $1000 on digital games, etc, within the XB ecosystem? How is that any different than if you've spent $1000 on Fortnite micro transactions that 'should be' cross platform account playable? What about if your favorite game franchise is Halo, yet you would also really like to play Fortnite, but you can't afford $60 for online, let alone $299 for another platform? Wouldn't making that existing XB customer choose to give up Halo, or their vast XB game collection, be anti consumer? All PS was doing was making you choose to join their ecosystem right? How is it any different?



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PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

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EricHiggin said:
KLAMarine said:

No but everyone has their price. If someone isn't cool with XBox policy, I advise they go to PS, Switch, or PC. If someone is okay with it, who am I to tell them how they should spend their money?

You made the point about locking the Fortnite accounts down, which locked you into a PS4 for good basically, but you also thought PS was anti consumer for not allowing cross play and cross accounts, which meant you would have to spend $299 on a PS4, to be able to play with your friends within the PS ecosystem.

Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite? What about if you've already spent $1000 on digital games, etc, within the XB ecosystem? How is that any different than if you've spent $1000 on Fortnite micro transactions that 'should be' cross platform account playable? What about if your favorite game franchise is Halo, yet you would also really like to play Fortnite, but you can't afford $60 for online, let alone $299 for another platform? Wouldn't making that existing XB customer choose to give up Halo, or their vast XB game collection, be anti consumer? All PS was doing was making you choose to join their ecosystem right? How is it any different?

"Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite?"

>Where did you get the idea I was okay with XB locking f2p games behind their paywall? I'm not.



 

KLAMarine said:
EricHiggin said:

You made the point about locking the Fortnite accounts down, which locked you into a PS4 for good basically, but you also thought PS was anti consumer for not allowing cross play and cross accounts, which meant you would have to spend $299 on a PS4, to be able to play with your friends within the PS ecosystem.

Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite? What about if you've already spent $1000 on digital games, etc, within the XB ecosystem? How is that any different than if you've spent $1000 on Fortnite micro transactions that 'should be' cross platform account playable? What about if your favorite game franchise is Halo, yet you would also really like to play Fortnite, but you can't afford $60 for online, let alone $299 for another platform? Wouldn't making that existing XB customer choose to give up Halo, or their vast XB game collection, be anti consumer? All PS was doing was making you choose to join their ecosystem right? How is it any different?

"Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite?"

>Where did you get the idea I was okay with XB locking f2p games behind their paywall? I'm not.

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KLAMarine said: 

No but everyone has their price. If someone isn't cool with XBox policy, I advise they go to PS, Switch, or PC. If someone is okay with it, who am I to tell them how they should spend their money?

Everyone has their price? If you don't like XB policies just leave? Who are you to tell them how to spend their money? Wasn't it you who was voicing your opinion because it's your right to do so, that PS should unlock accounts and open up cross play? Why didn't you just deal it instead?



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin said:
KLAMarine said:

"Yet you are now ok with XB locking you into a $60 paywall to be able to play FREE games like Fortnite?"

>Where did you get the idea I was okay with XB locking f2p games behind their paywall? I'm not.

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KLAMarine said: 

No but everyone has their price. If someone isn't cool with XBox policy, I advise they go to PS, Switch, or PC. If someone is okay with it, who am I to tell them how they should spend their money?

Everyone has their price? If you don't like XB policies just leave? Who are you to tell them how to spend their money?

This is not the same as being okay with it. This is me acknowledging XB1 policy is shitty but at least it didn't hijack your account with no means of reversing its abduction.

EricHiggin said:

Wasn't it you who was voicing your opinion because it's your right to do so, that PS should unlock accounts and open up cross play? Why didn't you just deal it instead?

I did deal with it. I voiced my opinion that Sony's hijacking Fortnite accounts was crappy and warned people against associating third party accounts with PS in the future.



KLAMarine said:
EricHiggin said:

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KLAMarine said: 

No but everyone has their price. If someone isn't cool with XBox policy, I advise they go to PS, Switch, or PC. If someone is okay with it, who am I to tell them how they should spend their money?

Everyone has their price? If you don't like XB policies just leave? Who are you to tell them how to spend their money?

This is not the same as being okay with it. This is me acknowledging XB1 policy is shitty but at least it didn't hijack your account with no means of reversing its abduction.

EricHiggin said:

Wasn't it you who was voicing your opinion because it's your right to do so, that PS should unlock accounts and open up cross play? Why didn't you just deal it instead?

I did deal with it. I voiced my opinion that Sony's hijacking Fortnite accounts was crappy and warned people against associating third party accounts with PS in the future.

Well to justify XB by saying everybody has their own price and if you don't like XB policies go elsewhere, you are certainly implying that you are ok with it to some degree. Now you've again compared it to how much "less unacceptable" it was to PS and it's account lock down, that's a point to be made, but not one you can prove is more right or wrong. You think what PS did was worse, but I would easily say I'd rather be able to play Fortnite and be stuck to a platform that allows me to play it, then not be able to play it at all. Now you don't have to be stuck to PS4 anymore, but you just may be stuck to XB. So why isn't that worth complaining about and doing what's right for the gaming community?

My point isn't just about you here, it's about the bigger picture. Lot's of fists were in the air against the 'tyrant King', and yet now that he's been brought back down off his throne, the Kings slightly less evil cousin is now in charge, and is clearly another problem, and yet nobody seems to care less. This is why most Kings don't give up their throne for anything. 



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin said:
KLAMarine said:

This is not the same as being okay with it. This is me acknowledging XB1 policy is shitty but at least it didn't hijack your account with no means of reversing its abduction.

I did deal with it. I voiced my opinion that Sony's hijacking Fortnite accounts was crappy and warned people against associating third party accounts with PS in the future.

Well to justify XB by saying everybody has their own price and if you don't like XB policies go elsewhere, you are certainly implying that you are ok with it to some degree. Now you've again compared it to how much "less unacceptable" it was to PS and it's account lock down, that's a point to be made, but not one you can prove is more right or wrong. You think what PS did was worse, but I would easily say I'd rather be able to play Fortnite and be stuck to a platform that allows me to play it, then not be able to play it at all. Now you don't have to be stuck to PS4 anymore, but you just may be stuck to XB. So why isn't that worth complaining about and doing what's right for the gaming community?

My point isn't just about you here, it's about the bigger picture. Lot's of fists were in the air against the 'tyrant King', and yet now that he's been brought back down off his throne, the Kings slightly less evil cousin is now in charge, and is clearly another problem, and yet nobody seems to care less. This is why most Kings don't give up their throne for anything.

"you are certainly implying that you are ok with it to some degree"

>To a degree: XBox policies are only in play while playing on XBox.

Prior to Sony's reversal, PlayStation policies were in play EVEN WHEN OUTSIDE of PlayStation. This became an issue when the Switch released because there were PS4 owners who picked up a Switch and wanted to play their Fortnite account on the Switch only to find out that they couldn't because PlayStation had essentially compromised their Fortnite account.

"You think what PS did was worse, but I would easily say I'd rather be able to play Fortnite and be stuck to a platform that allows me to play it, then not be able to play it at all. Now you don't have to be stuck to PS4 anymore, but you just may be stuck to XB."

>Well that's you. I think that many PS4+Switch owners found out that they couldn't access their Fortnite account on their Switch and vice-versa with no means of recovering their hijacked account so they complained. X1+Switch owners didn't have this limitation: they could go back and forth just fine and only begrudgingly paid the $60 for online or just played on their Switch with little delay. Some X1 owners might have already been paying for online prior so it didn't make a difference to them.

If you're looking for a metaphor, here it is:

Let's say you have a custom-built motorcycle you put money into building to your liking and there are three tracks wherein you can ride your motorcycle. These tracks are named as follows: Switch, PlayStation, and XBox.

If you have ever driven your motorcycle in PlayStation, that motorcycle was no longer your own to use as you saw fit. At the end of your visit to the PlayStation track, PlayStation took that motorcycle from you. You could not ride it in Switch or XBox ever again and PlayStation never warned you! If you wanted to drive in XBox, you needed to pay a fee for access BUT the track would NOT take your motorcycle from you. XBox was okay with you riding it in Switch fine which does not charge you an access fee.

I, and I think most people, would prefer to have two tracks to ride in as opposed to just one. Yes, XBox charged a fee for access but it didn't take your motorcycle from you at the end of the day. The Switch track was always an option.