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Cerebralbore101 said:
Mnementh said:

Wait, what?

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/games.php?name=&keyword=&console=Wii®ion=All&developer=&publisher=&genre=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Sales

The only non-Nintendo game in the TOP 10 is Just Dance - at tenth place.

The people that bought those games were not the people saying the Wii sucked. 

Wait... So, poeple hated the Wii, because casuals bought that didn't bought Nintendo-games, but some people that like Nintendo games not hated the Wii, bought the system and games and their number was bigger than on other NIntendo systems which didn't got as much hate???



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Nuvendil said:
Honestly, it's marketing. Or rather the lack of it. Nintendo came into that gen with powerful messaging that really sold the coolness of the system and made a good push towards the core, not just casuals. But as time went on and the system began "selling itself", Nintendo began to let things coast and that's when it started going downhill. As a company, if you don't write the narrative of your brand's image, someone else will. And Nintendo just stopped. Towards the end of the Wii's life, marketing was borderline non-existent. The system closed out with 4 core titles leading the charge: Pandora's Tower, Last Story, Xenoblade, and Zelda: Skyward Sword. None of these were significantly promoted. Skyward Sword was the only one promoted *at all*.

As a result, the image of the Wii simply decayed, as Nintendo's messaging was no longer there to push back against the sheer tsunami of shovel ware that utterly ruined the Wii brand. The Wii has a fantastic core library, but Nintendo stopped telling people that about halfway through. Customers aren't psychic.

Hmm, interesting thought. And probably even correct, although maybe only part of the puzzle.



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Aeolus451 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Using your logic, Sony only got success because Nintendo screwed up on the N64. Had they used CDs instead of cartridges Playstation would no longer exist. ;) 

it doesn't. You forgot about the PS2 and PS4. Sony can replicate it's massive success in the home console market while nintendo can't. 

So NES, SNES, Wii and Switch aren't / weren't successful? 



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Alkibiádēs said:
Aeolus451 said:

it doesn't. You forgot about the PS2 and PS4. Sony can replicate it's massive success in the home console market while nintendo can't. 

So NES, SNES, Wii and Switch aren't / weren't successful? 

Most of those weren't a massive success except the wii and it's too early to say for the NS. 



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SpokenTruth said:
It gets a bad rap because it threatened the ego and security of many gamers because an underpowered console outsold and gained mainstream attention over their shooter boxes and masculinity simulators.

Amen! i have never thought of that but you might be spot on!

 

it was gamers not having controls anymore but the mass. We all love something when is niche but Wii made everyone feels like gamers... and gamers hated it!



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Aeolus451 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

So NES, SNES, Wii and Switch aren't / weren't successful? 

Most of those weren't a massive success except the wii and it's too early to say for the NS. 

Did you just say the NES and SNES weren't massive successes lol? Did you completely miss the hype the NES Mini and SNES Mini brought with them? Sony is always welcome to re-release their old consoles, but I doubt they'd reach the sales numbers of the SNES Mini. 

To say the NES and SNES weren't massive successes is an incredibly anachronistic thing to say. Before the Playstation not a single console came even close to 100 million units sold. NES controlled over 90% of the market and the SNES controlled almost 60% of the market. 

The huge advantage Playstation has is that Sony is a global company with over 50.000 employees with factories, distributors and partners across the globe making it far easier to distribute and market their consoles across the world. Nintendo meanwhile barely has 5000 employees and is smaller than Ubisoft, EA, Activision, etc.

Nintendo doesn't have much of a presence in developing countries, Sony does.  

Last edited by Alkibiádēs - on 08 January 2018

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Maybe among certain younger fans. I do not think it is generally true.

I loved the Wii, it was the closest system to the original NES in terms of philosophy, and to me one of the most Nintendo-like consoles ever released.

But I am in my 30s, so I am older than most Nintendo fans. I think younger fans didn't like Wii because it wasn't like a Playstation Junior, and for them, being like a "Me Too Playstation" is what Nintendo consoles should be. Also, the Gamecube failed while the Wii was wildly successful, and after being defensive for 5 years from being told the Gamecube sucked for 5 years, when the Wii saw massive success, the Gamecube kids turned all red-faced and became snarlingly rebellious against it. But I would say the Wii was very well received by the majority of Nintendo fans.

Not saying all Gamecube fans hated Wii; just the Gamecube defence core - the militant keyboard warriors who won't accept that it was a flop.

The Wii had a much stronger library than Gamecube, you don't have people pretending that games like Eternal Darkness were somehow great when similar (and better) games were much more numerous in Wii's library.

 

PS, I love the Switch too. To me the good Nintendo consoles are: NES, Gameboy, SNES, GBA, DS, Wii, and Switch. The kind of bad ones due to big missteps but rescued by having some major classic software being 3DS and N64. The philosophically bad ones are Gamecube and Wii U. And the absolutely terrible one being the Virtual Boy.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 08 January 2018

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