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I'm actually on Konami side in terms of firing him, just not what they did after. Honestly he overproduces and clouds his own vision and cost the company insane amount of money I image, and I miss when he was limited by technology to make good games.

Also I agree with Pokoko Suikoden is why people should go fuck Konami. 



 

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Didn't it like basically stop for most people? I hardly even see any talks about it anymore unless it's like, Konami is shit thread but usually, that includes all their other nonsense like their Pichinko machines and etc as well.



                  

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Pagan said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Lets not bash Konami because companies are evil anyways? That's very strange reasoning...

Bashing Konami, criying all the time for Kojima but not saying any word about other companies seems not very honest. There is my Problem. It is just clickbaiting. I formyself dont really care and am an asshole too. But i am atleast honest. I dont care who my Tshirt made and where my smartphone is comming from. I also dont care about Konamis conditions. But if i would care than i would stand up for the rights of everyone in all companies or atleast for every member of konami and not only one Person whom i even dont know. That lack of honesty and made up care for workers drives me crazy.

To be fair, Konami has often been criticized for how it treated it's workers, often in tandem with the whole scandal with Kojima. It's understandable people were angry how they treated Kojima, the man is very good at it's job. It's just how people can love artists becauset their work inspires or entertains them. But that's certainly not the only reason people are mad with Konami.



Nice try, Konami.



I don't know if Kojima is to blame or not for something here and quite frankly, it doesn't matter. What we do know is that Konami has been acting terribly, much worse than a lot of other companies. By this time, we'd definitely have heard if some of the oldest companies in the industry were treating their (ex-)employees badly, but we haven't. I take that as a pretty strong sign that they're better than Konami.



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jason1637 said:

Ive played MGSV MGS4 MGS3 and some other Metal Gear games not made by him. The Kojima Metal Gears that ive played dont seem that unique compared to other games in that genre.

I mean, he did help make the genre in the first place...



Pagan said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Lets not bash Konami because companies are evil anyways? That's very strange reasoning...

Bashing Konami, criying all the time for Kojima but not saying any word about other companies seems not very honest. There is my Problem. It is just clickbaiting. I formyself dont really care and am an asshole too. But i am atleast honest. I dont care who my Tshirt made and where my smartphone is comming from. I also dont care about Konamis conditions. But if i would care than i would stand up for the rights of everyone in all companies or atleast for every member of konami and not only one Person whom i even dont know. That lack of honesty and made up care for workers drives me crazy.

Other companies don't actively go out of their way to keep ex-employees from getting new jobs, lock up their current employees, reassign their devs to janitorial jobs, prevent their top guy (formerly) from attending and receiving his own award at the VGAs and keep ex-employees from receiving health insurance. 

You know what else other companies don't do? Abandon their longtime fans who got them where they are today for stupid glorified gambling machines. It would be just like if Nintendo decided to pull the plug on console gaming because making porn magazines was more profitable for them. You can make all the excuses you want, people would RIGHTFULLY hate them for it. Inb4 "oh, it's sawnd bisnuss!"

So fuck that, I'll continue to bash these cocksuckers, thankyouverymuch. They fucking deserve it.

TallSilhouette said:
Nice try, Konami.

IKR? He's gotta be on their payroll.



Only Kojima games I really loved is Snatcher,Policenauts and Metal Gear Rising. Other than that the Konami games I loved had nothing to do with him. I never reallly got caught up in the drama. Many companies are dicks. People don't boycott Nintendo for how they treated Gunpei or how badly Sony treated Sakaguchi and so on. Companies are dicks some really are dicks.



Pagan said:

Can we stop playing Kojima's lawyer? No one from and knows Kojims personally. We were neither eating with him, neither drinking with him, neither were we asleep with him and woke up. We do not know his personality. I married my wife only after 4 years relationship and even today I still find new sides to her. Konami is a company like any other bigger company as well. Most of these companies are run unethically. If they did not, they could not maximize their profits. People like yong yea on youtube talk uninterrupted about the bad conditions at Konami. He himself has a t-shirt which is probably produced in Bangladesh by some children. Has also a smartphone under miserable conditions has been produced by a Foxconn employee. Can we finally stop playing Kojima's rescuer and simply accept that most traditional companies work like that? Can we finally stop the pseudo-drama? I'm concerned with the subject Kojima and the artificial drama that is already on the nerves because it simply simply does not have any meaning. We do not know Kojima. We only know his work. Hitler was also an artist. Shall we now play Hitler's lawyer? The example is, of course, extreme, however, Kojima Privat is perhaps a sadist, a psychopath or a good person. We do not know him. Stop with the Kojima drama. Now.

 

 

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SegataSanshiro said:

Only Kojima games I really loved is Snatcher,Policenauts and Metal Gear Rising. Other than that the Konami games I loved had nothing to do with him. I never reallly got caught up in the drama. Many companies are dicks. People don't boycott Nintendo for how they treated Gunpei or how badly Sony treated Sakaguchi and so on. Companies are dicks some really are dicks.

I just explained why this is a false equivalency, but go on and continue to be Konami's lapdog. 

#FucKonami til the end of time.