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Barozi said:
Skullwaker said:
Barozi said:
This thread is already full of bullshots.
At least the OP tried to find gameplay images.

Are you referring to my pics? The only ones I'm unsure of are Ninja Gaiden 3 and Assassin's Creed, but the others I'm 100% certain are gameplay.

Bullshots in this thread (only listing the ones I'm 100% sure of):
NG3
AC IV
Sonic Lost World
MK8 (not your pic)
Smash Bros WiiU (not your pic)


Oh, so you're so sure about the game you didn't play, huh ?



 

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shenlong213 said:


Oh, so you're so sure about the game you didn't play, huh ?

You don't need to play them to know that Gaiden 3 and Black Flag don't look like that on Wii U.



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shenlong213 said:
Barozi said:

Bullshots in this thread (only listing the ones I'm 100% sure of):
NG3
AC IV
Sonic Lost World
MK8 (not your pic)
Smash Bros WiiU (not your pic)


Oh, so you're so sure about the game you didn't play, huh ?

I don't even think Black Flag looked THAT good on PS4.



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Barozi said:
At least the OP tried to find gameplay images.

Cheers, haha.

It was actually pretty hard to find good native res screengrabs of Art of Balance. XD

Most good Bayonetta 2 pics are also supersampled promos.



curl-6 said:

Was looking back over how developers have improved from their first efforts on the hardware to their latest, and we've come quite a way.

 

Nintendo 2012

 

Nintendo 2014

 

NSMBU Had some beautiful lava levels aswell if memory serves? 3D world (only 1 year after launch) was a huge step from NSMBU.



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Is it true that Wii U hardware is better than PS3?
If yes why is there no game with better graphic than PS3? I mean there is no game on Wii U with The Last of Us or Uncharted 3 graphic. Even God of War 3 graphic hasn't been topped by Wii U (and God of War 3 is 2010). Don't understand me wrong, games like Bayonetta 2 looks good, but it could look much better if Wii U hardware is really better than PS3.



I don't hear too many people arguing about how terrible the Wii U games were visually, even dating back to 2012 (even considering the competition at the time was 7th gen hardware); they simply aren't industry leading, not that this has been a primary or even major selling point for Nintendo since maybe the SNES.

Make no mistake: the Wii U is perfectly capable hardware, but capable generally doesn't translate into high praise and marketing bullets in the visual department.



Dr.Vita said:
Is it true that Wii U hardware is better than PS3?
If yes why is there no game with better graphic than PS3? I mean there is no game on Wii U with The Last of Us or Uncharted 3 graphic. Even God of War 3 graphic hasn't been topped by Wii U (and God of War 3 is 2010). Don't understand me wrong, games like Bayonetta 2 looks good, but it could look much better if Wii U hardware is really better than PS3.

Since the tech behind the PS since the PS2 and again with the PS3 has been a major marketing point for both platforms, 2nd party developers have generally felt obligated to push the visuals and the tech to the greatest extent when developing for said platforms. SCE had a vested interest in helping 2nd party developers achieve this as these are the types of games that help market their hardware platforms most. 

The CPU of the Wii U is likely weaker (tech spec geeks feel free to correct this), but not constrained by memory limitations the way the PS3 is. The GPUs of each respective hardware platform is probably closer to a wash, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii U GPU was more capable than that of the PS3. 



shenlong213 said:
Barozi said:
Skullwaker said:
Barozi said:
This thread is already full of bullshots.
At least the OP tried to find gameplay images.

Are you referring to my pics? The only ones I'm unsure of are Ninja Gaiden 3 and Assassin's Creed, but the others I'm 100% certain are gameplay.

Bullshots in this thread (only listing the ones I'm 100% sure of):
NG3
AC IV
Sonic Lost World
MK8 (not your pic)
Smash Bros WiiU (not your pic)


Oh, so you're so sure about the game you didn't play, huh ?

I did play NG3 Razor's Edge and AC IV but those were just the most obvious examples of being bullshots.
As for the rest, yes I don't need to play them. Looking at the pics and comparing them with real screenshots is enough.
Most screenshots without any kind of HUD are used as promotional shots and thus most likely bullshots. Which is easily noticeable when the image appears to be too clean (anti-aliasing which isn't usually there) or when the image size is bigger than the native output.
The Smash Bros WiiU picture for example is 1262p. Also that picture was uploaded before the game came out, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that Nintendo helped a bit here and there with the image quality, which is what all publishers are doing.




Eddie_Raja said:
JRPGfan said:

Honestly considering the Wii U is less than 1/3 of the PS4 hardware wise, the graphics are pretty darn good in some games. Also goes to show how much is still left on the table for the ps4 & xbox 1.


Haha 1/3rd?  Try 1/6 - 1/12th.


Your right.... I wasnt remembering things correctly... went to look it up:

 

Wii U - GPUXBOX ONE - GPUPS4 - GPU
550MHz 853MHz 800MHz
5 CUs (320 ALUs) 12 CUs (768 ALUs) 18 CUs (1152 ALUs)
8 ROPS 16 ROPS 32 ROPS
16 TMUs 48 TMUs 72 TMUs
0.35 TFLOPS 1.31 TFLOPS 1.84 TFLOPS
4.4 GPix/s 13.6 GPix/s 25.6 GPix/s
8.8 GTex/s 40.9 GTex/s 57.6 GTex/s

12.8GB/s DDR3

(2GB shared with CPU)

(1GB reserved for OS)

68GB/s DDR3

(8GB shared with CPU)

(?GB reserved for OS)

176GB/s GDDR5

(8GB shared with CPU)

(?GB reserved for OS)

 

The Wii U basically has a "Radeon HD 5550" if your compaireing that to pc versions of GPUs.

That is insane.. once you actually think about it. What nintendo can do with so little.

 

by todays standards... its probably slower than even a AMD R7 240.

Heres what a AMD R7 250 looks like:

 

 

One of these "bad boys" goes for around 59$ on newegg (brand new) (with free shipping).

It has a core config of 384 / 24(TMUs) / 8(ROPs)  & a bandwidth of around 74 GB/s (vs the 12 GB/s of the Wii Us).

It has more than TWICE the GPix/s & GTex/s & TFLOPS of the Wii U.