Madword said:
DerNebel said:
Again, all that you're saying makes absolutely zero sense and definitely doesn't apply to me in the least.
First and foremost the cinema isn't $60 per ticket and actually no, I always have a general idea what a film is about and have heard some opinions about it before I actually go and pay for it. And nope I have not received surprise present (not that that isn't an absolutely horrible analogy anyway, since people are not rarely very disappointed with surprise presents) either. The restaurant is the same, I highly, highly doubt that you'd ever go to a restaurant and pay $60 for a meal that you've never tried before, if you haven't heard good things about it.
Also, you conveniently left out the digital part of my post, you can easily buy the game on day 1 with the PS app and have it to my knowledge even download while you're at work, so that's another reason for pre ordering gone.
And I find it hilarious that you're actually trying to make this into a fanboy thing, have you somehow not been paying attention in the last couple months? This has nothing to do with personal vendettas against certain games or companies, it's all about stopping companies from releasing broken games.
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I am making perfect sense thanks.
Well if i go to the cinema with my family it costs around £28 just for tickets (before I buy food) so yeah thats starting to get expensive. I am using that as an example... I am not saying, oh the price is different.... I am saying people find something like like the look of and go and watch or buy, games are no different.
You are suggesting that people have no idea about the games they are buying... I know perfectly well what the Order and Bloodbourne or any other games are before i buy it... how is that any different to a meal, cinema, or music... it's not.
Ah yeah people *NEVER* go to a resturant they havent been before and buy a meal. I dont know if you live in a small bubble somewhere where you only go to a single place... but just cause you dont doesnt mean no one else doesnt.
People dont have to buy digital... some people dont want to buy digital. Stop using your own opinion of what you do as a reason why others shouldnt or cant.
Also I have no where made this a fanboy thing... you are the one to bring up fanboy. I am saying as an industry as a whole, not any particular company or game.
Also I am happy to take the risk of there being issues with games day 1, games are very complex things you know... there have been technical problems with games for over 30 years. Some of us can handle that... dont need a nanny state to tell me what to do. I mean Elite Frontier was so broken that you had to order a replacement set of disks through the post... thats when broken games were a problem, these days, these issues are nothing.
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You know perfectly well what The Order is about, of course you do... I had that exact same sentiment when I was a teenager and bought games basically on sight without doing much research about them, back then it was "Oh it's a JRPG I'm sure I'll like it" but since I've been burned several times because of that I don't do it anymore. You know I learn from my mistakes.
And you should really read what I actually wrote, I have never said anything about only going to one restaurant in your life, I said that people hardly ever pay $60 for a meal they've never tried before if they haven't had it recommended to them/heard good things about it.
Same with the digital thing, I didn't tell you that you have to buy games digitally (seriously, did you even read my post properly before responding), what I did was give you legitimately better alternatives to pre ordering games, which you basically only refuted with "I don't wanna do that" and "I'm lazy".
Finally that last paragraph has got to be a joke. "There have been technical problems with games for over 30 years". So fucking what? How does that make releasing broken games nowadays ok? Are you seriously trying to tell me that if you pre ordered a game and got home on release day to play it just to realize that half of the game wasn't working and wasn't going to for over a month, that wouldn't be an issue to you?
