You're convenietly missing the point yourself that Forza 5 won't sell anywhere near 2M unbundles copies and Horizon even less. Pass glories are great and all but they don't represent the reality. 

More frequent? Wouldn't be anything like Forza's annual milking considering 2 GT's came out for the PS3 and 2 or 3 max will likely come out for the PS4. Hardly frequent over the lifetime of a console now is it.  But you could argue it might become more frequent if they actually make a 3rd one this generation. The series is a bit like GTA in it's release schedual. 

You haven't played the games that resemble it then. A lot of the gameplay they use is just cop-y and paste from another insomniac game called Ratchet and it's quite similar to the PS3 infamous' with the way you move around the map. But yes shockingly it is very like ratcht and clank. I wonder why that is....

That doesn't make any sense. GT5 released in 2010 and has managed 10m sales. GT6 came out in 2013 and is already close to 3m, will hit 4m lifetime. You're telling me that in 3 years that the entire franchise has collapsed to such a degree? No, no, not even you believe that. GT6 had the worst possible release date. The game was completely overshadowed by the PS4 and was unable to build up a market presence. That shouldn't be the case for the next mainline entry on PS4. I guarantee GT7 will be a 7m+ seller at the very least. 

Becasue its true, Its brand saturation.   Great means what exactly.  

No, GT6 saw a massive decline because lack of interest. While CoD:Ghosts did fantastic on PS3 even though there was a PS4 version.

But like I said before, other racing IPs also saw a decline. PS4 isn't to blame, people just might be losing interest in racing games.

That doesn't make any sense. GT5 released in 2010 and has managed 10m sales. GT6 came out in 2013 and is already close to 3m, will hit 4m lifetime. You're telling me that in 3 years that the entire franchise has collapsed to such a degree? No, no, not even you believe that. GT6 had the worst possible release date. The game was completely overshadowed by the PS4 and was unable to build up a market presence. That shouldn't be the case for the next mainline entry on PS4. I guarantee GT7 will be a 7m+ seller at the very least. 

Over time I think Forza 5 will do 2 million unbundled. The series has shown decent legs even for predecessors. Its at 1.6 million now with some bundling and we don't know the digital sales.

I never said Forza Horizon 2 will do two million. My guess was 1.5 million life time for X1, maybe 500-600K for the 360. Unless they spend a fortune making those games I assume they're profitable.

The personality and gameplay of SO differs greatly from the games you mentioend. Those are aspects that can affect a games popularity. Hence, the style of SO is niche kinda like Jet Set Radio.

There is always an "only" problem. that doesn't make it right. Especially after the issues DC had one would think MS would have learned from that. Lets not forget that Xbox is supposed to have the online service to beat and the whole azure servers stuff was the cornerstone of all their XB1 marketing.

Anyways I think he's right. SO should have released in the first quater of 2015. I think new IPs should always aim for release windows that aren't stacked. Frza and Halo released at the right time, they are already popular and established franchises.

Forza 5 has already been bundled heavily not a little as you put it. Take off the rose tinted glasses. FH2 is out and is taking it's legs from under it. Not that i had good legs anyway. Forza 6 will kill off both the Forza's and it will be the 3rd Forza in 2 years of X1. Talk about milking. As kong as it continues it will keep having very average sales. But for a racer they're not bad. Considering the steep decline in the genre. 

The basic gameplay is very similar to Ratchet especially and a lot of things similar to infamous too. Obviously the personality is going to be very different or else they'd be calling it Ratchet Overdrive. You find it hard accepting facts and saying ratchet and sunset are similar should be the first one on your "must accept" list. Ratchet is a better game than sunset though. That's prob the biggest diff between them :)