Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 were released at Bad times

[Mr Puggsly]

Kerotan said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Over time I think Forza 5 will do 2 million unbundled. The series has shown decent legs even for predecessors. Its at 1.6 million now with some bundling and we don't know the digital sales.

I never said Forza Horizon 2 will do two million. My guess was 1.5 million life time for X1, maybe 500-600K for the 360. Unless they spend a fortune making those games I assume they're profitable.

The personality and gameplay of SO differs greatly from the games you mentioend. Those are aspects that can affect a games popularity. Hence, the style of SO is niche kinda like Jet Set Radio.

Forza 5 has already been bundled heavily not a little as you put it. Take off the rose tinted glasses. FH2 is out and is taking it's legs from under it. Not that i had good legs anyway. Forza 6 will kill off both the Forza's and it will be the 3rd Forza in 2 years of X1. Talk about milking. As kong as it continues it will keep having very average sales. But for a racer they're not bad. Considering the steep decline in the genre. 

The basic gameplay is very similar to Ratchet especially and a lot of things similar to infamous too. Obviously the personality is going to be very different or else they'd be calling it Ratchet Overdrive. You find it hard accepting facts and saying ratchet and sunset are similar should be the first one on your "must accept" list. Ratchet is a better game than sunset though. That's prob the biggest diff between them :) 

Hey, lets just wait and see how Forza sells. If I'm wrong, I'll get over it. So chill out. Forza does better than average.

You agreed the personality of SO is very different, so there you go. If it was a more serious game like Infamous it could have potentially performed better. Hence, the style of SO is more niche which is why many games like don't exist.