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GTAexpert on 12 October 2014
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Screamapillar said:
New Nintendo IPs since 2006:

Wii Sports
Wii Fit
Wii Party
Wii Music
Wonderful 101
Splatoon
S.T.E.A.M.
Captain Toad

I think I'm even forgetting some...

You get more new I.P. from Nintendo without realizing than you probably do from the other two console makers. Just think about it. Most of the industry is sequel-driven, because that's what gamers demand. New IPs have never been more risky than they are today. The fact that there are *any* at all anymore is actually quite amazing to me.

That is just plain wrong. You listed 8 new IP's from Nintendo. Lets make a list of new IP's from Sony since 2006:

Loco Roco

MotorStorm

LittleBigPlanet

Uncharted

Resistance

The Last Of Us

Beyond: Two Souls

Driveclub

Demon's Souls

The Order: 1886

Resistance

Bloodborne

Journey

Patapon

Knack

Until Dawn

Tearaway

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

MAG

Warhawk

Heavenly Sword

 

That is 21 new IP's from Sony in the same time frame in which Nintendo only made 8 new IP's. I'm sure MS have made many as well.


Nintendo has a lot more than 8. Have to add some more..

Zengeki non reginleiv

Disaster day of crisis

Xenoblade

Endless Ocean

Another Code

Excite Trucks

... and many more from gc era too

 

But I have to agree with  you. That Nintendo has create some new IPs is a fact. But Sony has done a better work not only creatin many new IPs too but making them big and creatin hype around them. Last PS3's year was terrific in that way

 

PD: you put Resistance twice

Sony still has created many more new IPs since 2006 than Nintendo. And they have created a lot more in the PS2 era as well, more than Nintendo created in the same time frame. Not only the marketing, but the marketing, appeal and VOLUME of the new IP's they created generally exceeded that of what Nintendo created.

I agree with you before but not now. Sony has done an excellent work to have new and great IPs. no doubt about that. ButNintendo has create more IPs than any company. And I mean Nintendo as first party. Sony has gained many ip's but not all from their own creation. It doesn't matter to appreciate the quality of a game for sure, but if we talk abou that we must talk with property

Nintendo has created more IP's, if we take into consideration all the new IP's they created since they came into gaming, which was much earlier than Sony. If we count new IP's created by both Nintendo and Sony in this century, Sony has created more IMO.



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Mike_L on 12 October 2014
MDX said:
GTAexpert said:
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Screamapillar said:

So what if Sony made more?

How well has Sony supported all their new IPs?

Have they been consistent in quality?

Quality :p

 

Wii Sports (76)
Wii Fit (80)
Wii Party (68)
Wii Music (63)
Wonderful 101 (78)
Splatoon (TBA)
S.T.E.A.M. (TBA)
Captain Toad (TBA)
Zangeki no Reginleiv (no Metacritic but Famitsu gave it 28/40)
Disaster: Day of Crisis (69)
Xenoblade Chronicles (92)
Endless Ocean (72)
Another Code (66)
Excite Truck (72)



Arfen on 12 October 2014
GTAexpert said:
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Screamapillar said:
New Nintendo IPs since 2006:

Wii Sports
Wii Fit
Wii Party
Wii Music
Wonderful 101
Splatoon
S.T.E.A.M.
Captain Toad

I think I'm even forgetting some...

You get more new I.P. from Nintendo without realizing than you probably do from the other two console makers. Just think about it. Most of the industry is sequel-driven, because that's what gamers demand. New IPs have never been more risky than they are today. The fact that there are *any* at all anymore is actually quite amazing to me.

That is just plain wrong. You listed 8 new IP's from Nintendo. Lets make a list of new IP's from Sony since 2006:

Loco Roco

MotorStorm

LittleBigPlanet

Uncharted

Resistance

The Last Of Us

Beyond: Two Souls

Driveclub

Demon's Souls

The Order: 1886

Resistance

Bloodborne

Journey

Patapon

Knack

Until Dawn

Tearaway

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

MAG

Warhawk

Heavenly Sword

 

That is 21 new IP's from Sony in the same time frame in which Nintendo only made 8 new IP's. I'm sure MS have made many as well.


Nintendo has a lot more than 8. Have to add some more..

Zengeki non reginleiv

Disaster day of crisis

Xenoblade

Endless Ocean

Another Code

Excite Trucks

... and many more from gc era too

 

But I have to agree with  you. That Nintendo has create some new IPs is a fact. But Sony has done a better work not only creatin many new IPs too but making them big and creatin hype around them. Last PS3's year was terrific in that way

 

PD: you put Resistance twice

Sony still has created many more new IPs since 2006 than Nintendo. And they have created a lot more in the PS2 era as well, more than Nintendo created in the same time frame. Not only the marketing, but the marketing, appeal and VOLUME of the new IP's they created generally exceeded that of what Nintendo created.

I agree with you before but not now. Sony has done an excellent work to have new and great IPs. no doubt about that. ButNintendo has create more IPs than any company. And I mean Nintendo as first party. Sony has gained many ip's but not all from their own creation. It doesn't matter to appreciate the quality of a game for sure, but if we talk abou that we must talk with property

Nintendo has created more IP's, if we take into consideration all the new IP's they created since they came into gaming, which was much earlier than Sony. If we count new IP's created by both Nintendo and Sony in this century, Sony has created more IMO.

Sony hasn't create more. Spny has had more studios developing for them. I just say as a developer Nintedo has create more own IP than sony. Not counting extarnal developments or second parties.. Is not something to take care to enjoy the games, is just a point & a repeat you I love the work Sony has done to bring new IP's, many of them are great



GTAexpert on 12 October 2014
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
Arfen said:
GTAexpert said:
 

Sony still has created many more new IPs since 2006 than Nintendo. And they have created a lot more in the PS2 era as well, more than Nintendo created in the same time frame. Not only the marketing, but the marketing, appeal and VOLUME of the new IP's they created generally exceeded that of what Nintendo created.

I agree with you before but not now. Sony has done an excellent work to have new and great IPs. no doubt about that. ButNintendo has create more IPs than any company. And I mean Nintendo as first party. Sony has gained many ip's but not all from their own creation. It doesn't matter to appreciate the quality of a game for sure, but if we talk abou that we must talk with property

Nintendo has created more IP's, if we take into consideration all the new IP's they created since they came into gaming, which was much earlier than Sony. If we count new IP's created by both Nintendo and Sony in this century, Sony has created more IMO.

Sony hasn't create more. Spny has had more studios developing for them. I just say as a developer Nintedo has create more own IP than sony. Not counting extarnal developments or second parties.. Is not something to take care to enjoy the games, is just a point & a repeat you I love the work Sony has done to bring new IP's, many of them are great

Sony has published more IP's than Nintendo, that is what matters here. But yeah, they both have great IP's, but I would like Nintendo to make more new IP's which interest me, as their current lineup which might be great doesn't appeal to me.



Nem on 12 October 2014

I disagree. I dont think Nintendo needs to create lots of new IP's. They should create some and they should foster their existing ones.

Sony makes new IP's all the time. Most often than not they are flops. At the same time they didnt foster their existing IP's as they should. Jak, crash, wipeout, rollcage, colony wars, etc. for example were thrown into obscurity.



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*Sound Of Rain on 12 October 2014

You know what? I wasn't going to say anything but Wii U owners have got to be among the dumbest people on planet Earth. Why? Nintendo F'd up...big time. Like MASSIVELY! They did SO MANY stupid things. First of all, they called it the Wii U. LOL, really? Wii who? Oh, it's just me f'ing up yet again.

The fans are so blatantly blind that they would rather spend $300 on a console that gets 7 underpowered, unappealing games a year than to save up and buy a true current Gen console. Nope, let's buy yet another Mario game so we can rescue Peach again.

I don't even understand the whole Bayonetta thing. Really? The only reason you guys are hyping it to the heavens is because it's exclusive. Don't act like you would've loved it regardless if it was a multi-plat. Again, blind fanboys at their finest. It literally makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about how dumb Nintendo fans are. Also, I can't believe how dumb I once was for being a part of it all.

You know what? Screw all of you! All of you lame-ass fanboys need to grow a pair and stop paying for such stupid shit. Weeeee!!!! Let's jump on a Koopa and call it gaming. So much fun! Gameplay FTW!! What gameplay? All you're doing is mashing the jump button until the level ends. I guess that would be fun...if you're 7...maybe. Look guys! I'm a gamer too!!! Ha! So much core!

I do have to apologize though. After all, it's not your fault that you suck. I blame the parents. They raised such a stupid child that they struggle with making smart choices today. Are you that stupid child? If you have a Wii U, that answer is a resounding yes. Yes, you are a f'ing moron & yes you do need help.

Peace Nintendo fans! Hope you all grow up some day!

User was moderated for this post - Conegamer



Lucas-Rio on 12 October 2014

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Ignore this post, Carl



Conegamer on 12 October 2014

Let's keep quote trees down and posts on topic. No need to comment on the banned user(s).



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

tbone51 on 12 October 2014

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Ignore this post, Carl



ohmylanta1003 on 12 October 2014
*Sound Of Rain said:

You know what? I wasn't going to say anything but Wii U owners have got to be among the dumbest people on planet Earth. Why? Nintendo F'd up...big time. Like MASSIVELY! They did SO MANY stupid things. First of all, they called it the Wii U. LOL, really? Wii who? Oh, it's just me f'ing up yet again.

The fans are so blatantly blind that they would rather spend $300 on a console that gets 7 underpowered, unappealing games a year than to save up and buy a true current Gen console. Nope, let's buy yet another Mario game so we can rescue Peach again.

I don't even understand the whole Bayonetta thing. Really? The only reason you guys are hyping it to the heavens is because it's exclusive. Don't act like you would've loved it regardless if it was a multi-plat. Again, blind fanboys at their finest. It literally makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about how dumb Nintendo fans are. Also, I can't believe how dumb I once was for being a part of it all.

You know what? Screw all of you! All of you lame-ass fanboys need to grow a pair and stop paying for such stupid shit. Weeeee!!!! Let's jump on a Koopa and call it gaming. So much fun! Gameplay FTW!! What gameplay? All you're doing is mashing the jump button until the level ends. I guess that would be fun...if you're 7...maybe. Look guys! I'm a gamer too!!! Ha! So much core!

I do have to apologize though. After all, it's not your fault that you suck. I blame the parents. They raised such a stupid child that they struggle with making smart choices today. Are you that stupid child? If you have a Wii U, that answer is a resounding yes. Yes, you are a f'ing moron & yes you do need help.

Peace Nintendo fans! Hope you all grow up some day!

User was moderated for this post - Conegamer


Wow. I have lost all respect for you. This just seems so out of character. Did his account get hacked? It just doesn't sound like the sound of rain.

It's just really sad that you could even think some of the things that you said...we could all make any gamer sound dumb if we wanted to. God, I do not get this site sometimes.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.