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I think Moore is correct. Gaming is becoming more mainstream, and most people are embracing the change. It is positive that more and more people are becoming interested in gaming, even if most are only playing Candy Crush or Farmville.
The important thing is that there exist a choice for every taste, every demographic and every price point. And then it's up to individuals to make their own choices, and in turn respect everybody else's.



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EA: We embrace every gamer and listen to them.......except WiiU owners, because fuck them.



And he thinks that's why core gamers dislike EA?



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That's right EA. Rush a game out to market even when its not ready so that its a buggy mess at launch. Put microtransactions in all games because people clearly don't want to play games anymore. They just want to buy games to pay you more money to unlock everything.

What next? Charge for demos....oh yea. Changing times indeed.



 

The problem with all those smartphone and casual gamers is that they are not dedicated to games in any way. They might enjoy Candy Crush for some weeks, but after that, more often than not they won't look actively for a new game.

The core gamer on the other hand has gaming as his main hobby. He constantly buys new games at a relatively high price point and you can be pretty sure that he will be gaming even in 10 years from now. So, your casual folks are always good for a quick cash-in, just because there are so many of them. 1 $ from every iPhone user on the world? You're goddamn rich! But if you piss off your core gamers too much, most of them will leave you. It might just happen that sometime, you find yourself without any supporters left. That's when you're taking the road to benkruptcy. Depending on how much money you have in the bank, that might take a few months or even more than a decade. Doesn't really matter, it's a dangerous road to take. You should always focus on your main audience, your bread and butter. Of course you can take a look for new markets, but never lose focus of your core business.

A pretty good example imo is Nintendo. They took the world by storm with the Wii and the DS only to fall even deeper than with Gamecube with the Wii U. The casuals left and a lot of old Ninty Fans were pissed off and simply didn't want another Nintendo system.

There is no black and white. That also applies to the gaming industry.



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Darwinianevolution said:
I'm pretty sure there's going to be a videogame crisis between the 8th and 10th gen. The market has expanded too much too fast. Not only there are a lot of hardware options (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, tablet, mobile,PCs, miniconsoles...) to choose from, the bad habits of the industry are going to burn it in the long run.

In what way would you portray this 'crisis'?

I can honestly see it happening in one way or another. AAA game budgets are getting ridiculous by the way. Image what could go wrong if it gets worse..



I don't think core gamers are pissed about offerings to other demographics. They are pissed because the offerings fro the core are getting less common or classic core games are transformed to cater more to new audiences.

The problem here is: as I came inbto gaming, many games survived on 20K buyers. But these games were developed by 5 people in thre months. Today to compete games are developed by 500 people in three years. Obviously 20K sales aren't enough to bring back the investion. That's why many classic core games are dropped or changed to draw in more people. Losing the old gamers on the way.



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SvennoJ said:
With 1.5 billion smart phones out there (2013 numbers) of course they like that market better than serving an all demanding vocal minority that curses you every step of the way.

Aren't Capcom and Square Enix and EA not doing that well before they release their Fifa,Final Fantasy and Monster Hunter i don't see any future for big editors in smartphones



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

small44 said:
SvennoJ said:
With 1.5 billion smart phones out there (2013 numbers) of course they like that market better than serving an all demanding vocal minority that curses you every step of the way.

Aren't Capcom and Square Enix and EA not doing that well before they release their Fifa,Final Fantasy and Monster Hunter i don't see any future for big editors in smartphones


Well hopefully EA will go all in on smartphones then...



KLXVER said:

EA: We embrace every gamer and listen to them.......except WiiU owners, because fuck them.

" Fuck WiiU owners for not buying our half-assed ports!! "



                
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