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sidmeiernintifan said:
The japanese will need a machine to play Final Fantasy, PS4 will surely sell at least as much as PS3 in Japan.

The first part is true. The second... why?

Final Fantasy 13 was a big hit in Japan, with nearly 2 million sales, but it's been declining. outsold 13 by over 0.4 million, 10 outsold 12 by a similar margin, and all three PSone Final Fantasy games outsold X. Including FF9, which was outsold 2:1 in the West by X. The series has obviously been declining, ESPECIALLY since the PS2 was such a hit in Japan that the relative dcline was even bigger.

I wouldn't be surprised if Final Fantasy 15 continued the downward trend. Is it really that radical a prediction to guess that it'll sell less than 1.5 million on the PS4, for example? Bear in mind that recent spinoffs have done even worse these past couple of years. 13-2 is well below a million and Lightning Returns may never reach half a million in Japan, compared to X-2's 2.11 million. Dissidia 2 only sold half of the original, X HD is hovering around a quarter million, Theatrhythm was a bigger hit in America, wtc.

As for the PS4 selloing at least 10 or 11 million consoles in Japan, I have to ask why. Final Fantasy is declining, Resident Evil declined drastically from 5 to 6, the Warriors games seem to be losing steam at the moment, Metal Gear Solid did better on the PSP than the PS3, meaning the fandom is more likely to be Vita owners, Gran Turismo 7 is years away... what are the big games going to be that make lots of people buy PS4's? I'm thinking Warriors-type games and Yakuza alone can make the PS4 a hit, but Western games are still not big enough in Japan to justify a system's existence.

If Japan bought less than 12 million consoles Gen 8, I wouldn't be surprised.



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JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:
JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:
JoeTheBro said:

 

Prediction lol. PS4 will beat 3DS ww every month in 2014, 2015, and 2016.


Want to make that a bet?


I'll make a bet for just 2014. The usual one month of sig control to the winner?

Going off these numbers with ample time for adjustments if needed of course: http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/hw_date.php?reg=Global&ending=Monthly


Sounds like fun. 

Are we including January and February, or are we starting with March, in order to account for the PS4's Japanese launch in a few days? I'm fine either way.


Doesn't make a difference but for clarification it's all 12 months of 2014. If any of those favor 3DS you win.


Then we duel!

I'll update my sig to let the world know soon.



fatslob-:O said:
JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:


Sounds like fun. 

Are we including January and February, or are we starting with March, in order to account for the PS4's Japanese launch in a few days? I'm fine either way.


Doesn't make a difference but for clarification it's all 12 months of 2014. If any of those favor 3DS you win.

Then you had best hope that super smash bros for the 3DS is releasing in September along with Destiny ...

We'll see lol. I doubt smash will give that big of a hardware boost.



JoeTheBro said:
fatslob-:O said:
JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:


Sounds like fun. 

Are we including January and February, or are we starting with March, in order to account for the PS4's Japanese launch in a few days? I'm fine either way.


Doesn't make a difference but for clarification it's all 12 months of 2014. If any of those favor 3DS you win.

Then you had best hope that super smash bros for the 3DS is releasing in September along with Destiny ...

We'll see lol. I doubt smash will give that big of a hardware boost.

I don't know ... It would only make sense that the 3DS version would cannibalize the WII U version given the fact it's on a better platform.



I just read all 9 pages. Not like of me to do that.

Anyway, I think that over time the 3DS will eventually come back to take the top spot every so often. Let's not forget, the 2DS is yet to be released in Japan. Assuming that the 2DS is released in Japan in 2014, it is pretty much guaranteed that for that week or two the 3DS will have the top spot.



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JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:
JoeTheBro said:
Salnax said:
JoeTheBro said:

 

Prediction lol. PS4 will beat 3DS ww every month in 2014, 2015, and 2016.


Want to make that a bet?


I'll make a bet for just 2014. The usual one month of sig control to the winner?

Going off these numbers with ample time for adjustments if needed of course: http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/hw_date.php?reg=Global&ending=Monthly


Sounds like fun. 

Are we including January and February, or are we starting with March, in order to account for the PS4's Japanese launch in a few days? I'm fine either way.


Doesn't make a difference but for clarification it's all 12 months of 2014. If any of those favor 3DS you win.


You should exclude december  from your prediction, nintendo consoles always sell much better at christmas, that will be the only month of 3DS domination



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

spemanig said:
tbone51 said:
spemanig said:
tbone51 said:
spemanig said:
This needs to be said: Where the hell are major the 2014 3DS games!? People complain about a Wii U drought, but I'm seeing a 3DS one, too.


there is no drought, i think 2013 has messed up your judgement due to its deliver of games


No. It raised my expectations, and what we're getting falls below even my previous expectations. The most exciting game we know we're getting this year is Professor Layton. That's a problem.

this is wat i mean, 3ds 2013 was an amazing year(meaning for 1 hardware library) so now fans expect every year like it. This Year is looking like a 2012 so far. Not better, not worse. The thing is we only have the first half of the year announcments, we dont kno the second half with the exception of ssb.


2012 was way better. 2012 had Super Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Mario Kart 7, Star Fox 64, Resident Evil: Revelations, Street Fighter IV 3D, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and Super Mario Bros. 2. This year has nothing on that. I'd give my left nut for another year like 2012. This year is shit for the 3DS so far, and people need to start seeing that. It's worse than 2013 AND worse than 2012. At least we're getting Yoshi's Island and Kirby. 


I agree with you, but Super Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Mario Kart 7, Star Fox 64 3D, and Street Fighter IV 3D were all in 2011



Aerys said:
JoeTheBro said:


Doesn't make a difference but for clarification it's all 12 months of 2014. If any of those favor 3DS you win.


You should exclude december  from your prediction, nintendo consoles always sell much better at christmas, that will be the only month of 3DS domination


The bet is already made. Plus I still think the PS4 will win it. 3DS 3 million, PS4 5 million.



2 or 3 weeks.



Haha. You are very funny , Ryan. Those huge PS4 numbers in Japan aren't going to last too much. The PS4 will do good numbers in 2014 and maybe 2015, but that's it.



                
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