KylieDog said: Darc Requiem said: That's the thing publishers had already passed on the game. That's how we got to his point. Bayonetta 2 was cancelled for PS3/360 some time ago. I don't understand how the possibility that the same publishers that said no before may possibly change their minds at some point in the future is a better option for fans. SEGA who own it cancelled the project, we do not know who else was approached only that Nintendo green lit it.

We know it wouldn't exist without Nintendo, Platinum confirmed as such.

reggin_bolas said: Calling it right now, whatever your sales predictions are, lower them x10 and you won't be far off. Why on earth would they release a sequel to a game that had nothing to do with Nintendo's platform? This will likely go multiplat, no way they can continue their relationship with Nintendo and the failing Wii U. I for one wouldn't buy it even if I planned on getting a Wii U. It's a slap in the face for the fans.

Define how many it has to sell, to be considered a flop (or not longer a flop). Then define how many less it has to sell to FLOP HARD. If you say it flops hard, if it sells less than 5 million, I can agree without a doubt, that it will flop hard. If you say it flops hard if it sells less than 10K, than I will disagree and say it will not flop hard. As long as you don't define what makes a flop for you, we cannot discuss your statement.

KylieDog said: curl-6 said: We know it wouldn't exist without Nintendo, Platinum confirmed as such. Read my reply a few posts up about chance.

What other studio was going to pick up a cancelled game almost certain to lose money? Only Nintendo had the motive; they needed "hardcore" exclusive for their new console.

It's completely logical why only Nintendo showed interest.

reggin_bolas said: Shouldn't be that hard to bring it to PS4/XB1. They could even try to kickstart the damn thing. I just know that the game will bomb because the people who enjoyed the first one aren't going to buy the Wii U anytime soon.

Kickstart works for Indies, because ... well the budget is smaller. For games like Bayonetta you need a sugar daddy who pays for the game and has deep pockets. You could kickstart the game - but for a game like Bayo that would mean a 3-hours-game (for episode 1) and then the next kickstart for the next 3 hours.

KylieDog said: If Nintendo didn't pick it up was always a chance for someone else to sooner or later.  Going Nintendo only is probably worse for Boyonetta fans, now there isn't even that chance.

Sooner or later someone else can pick up Bayonetta 3. I doubt that the franchise was completely bought by Nintendo, I think Sega kept it's rights of the thing, and only Bayonetta 2 is Nintendo-published. So the chance keeps intact and the franchise is kept alive in the time.

Kyuu said: tbone51 said: _crazy_man_ said: Dat logic. IF I CAN'T HAVE IT ON THE SYSTEM I WANT, NO ONE SHOULD. I really am starting to hate this self-entitled generation. us nintendo fans might be used to it, imagine if we had FF back o.O so many meltdowns! Each FF game is set in a different universe whereas Bayonetta 1 and 2 are linked. That, and FF only switched to Sony after a generation leap, a beginning of a radically different approach which Sony excelled through, the 3D era.   Bayonetta switching to Wii U doesn't make sense. I think it's a bad move for both the fans and the game. And hardly good news for Nintendo.

i agree with you on FF, but Bayo2 even if its non a profit for nintendo, fans crying about it is stupid. Something revived on another platform is better than it being dead. For ex: lets say zelda was finished, Nintendo said **** it. No more ever again, then sony buys the rights to it from nintendo. They make Zelda for PS4, yes we will all be upset, but i be sooo angry at nintendo, not sony. I'll be grateful to them for bringing a dead franchise back! People who think bayo2 for wiiu is stupid need to wake the **** up. Being mad @ nintendo just says alot about some1 imo. Even if 1k sells for bayo2 lifetime, thats 1k more than wat sony+microsoft did for it, NUFF SAID

oniyide said: Kyuu said: tbone51 said: _crazy_man_ said: Dat logic. IF I CAN'T HAVE IT ON THE SYSTEM I WANT, NO ONE SHOULD. I really am starting to hate this self-entitled generation. us nintendo fans might be used to it, imagine if we had FF back o.O so many meltdowns! Each FF game is set in a different universe whereas Bayonetta 1 and 2 are linked. That, and FF only switched to Sony after a generation leap, a beginning of a radically different approach which Sony excelled through, the 3D era.   Bayonetta switching to Wii U doesn't make sense. I think it's a bad move for both the fans and the game. And hardly good news for Nintendo. for the love of... Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo. It was not going to be made, Ninty stepped in and funded it. What part of this dont you understand?

thank you,saying it'll flop is one thing debatable(even tough it might), but blaming nintendo is probably the worst thing gamers can say this generation. Nintendo saved it, no matter if it sells 1,000 units lifetime, tats 1,000 more than wat it would be if nintendo never stepped up! Thats for looking at the whole picture Oni!

Wait and see is the best approach. No need for fanboyism.

If Nintendo can get WiiU sales going and given this game launches sometime next year, I can see it doing up to 1m lifetime. I really can't see more since, well, looking at mature rated games on the Wii.

Edit: 1m not a flop. Dissapointing in general, but not a flop.

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MohammadBadir said: Nice to see the butthurt still burns.

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