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I just don't want to buy the Kinect. Didn't want it a year ago, won't want it 6 months from now. 

Why I need to do anything other than buy the Xbox One in order to use the Xbox One is silly imo

It's these kinds of post that are going to hurt the tinfoil hat industry.  Do you think of those workers?  What about their pet rabbits?  At least one of them probably has a bunny rabbit to feed.

You really want people not to be able to refer to a big innovation and advancement in computer-human interaction without irrational and paranoid ways to hate it?  What do you want, a happy, peaceful and innovative future?

You would probably make R2D2 talk too!

JoeTheBro!  Nice to know I'm not the only one that cover those nasty little LED's with black elecritacl tape.  Wait till I tell my friend(s) they make fun of it, but my family understands. 

I had a long, long talk with the developer of the Xbox One, and he said at the most it will look like it's 'warm.' I gather like an eletric stove top spiral burner.  He said no sparkely red light like the current one.  It sounds like the infared light souce gives off that 'warm' looking.  I have noticed a fan in the back of the Kinect 2.0, perhapse that's why.

I still haven't seen it turned on in person yet.  Have you? Or know anyone that has?

Why is there a problem with the Kinect always being plugged in? The Wii demands that you have the receiver plugged in at all times (hard to controlthe thing otherwise) and if you are afraid of the camera... well then i guess you are afraid of your phone, webcam or e-mail aswell?

Yes, the Kinect always awaits a command from you, but that of course does not mean it is destined to listen in on everything at your home. The system can be abused, but so can the PS4, your smartphone or, most likely, your email account.

So why are some of us XBox enthusiasts excited about Kinect? Personally, I always liked innovation in whatever form is came. I always felt that Sega dared to take chances with the industry, although most of them did not pan out as expected. Nintendo should be commended for the Wii and also MS for the original XBox. Kinect is another daring move and I will enjoy what kinds of experiences is brings.

This kind of rational and sensible discussion is frowned upon here Mister!  What it if does turn out to be a wonderful desired innovation!  What then Mr. Puppy & Roach?

You actually want a computer that you can talk to, and it talks back as in Star Trek? But think of all the time consuming joy people have learning to type, typing, and correcting their spelling error.  What would they do with all that time back?  Just be miserable I bet.

I'd like to point out that one of the Wright Brothers was killed in a plane crash.  If they hadn't made the airplane they would probably be dead now anyway, but that's not the point!

i agree, who needs auto-patching anyway. it's much more fun to watch it update everything when we switch it on again.

Well I should probably apologize for my disrespect s a neewbie. Hopefully the Kinect won´t kill me atleast.

Edward Snowden showed us that there are endless very good reasons to be paranoid. If we don't defend ourselves now, we won't have a chance in the future as technology gets better and better, surveillancing more of our lives every single day. And I'm not hating on the Xbox, that's just one tiny part of the picture. All I'm saying is, be careful. Microsoft is savin each and every Skype Call, you're absolutely sure they're not saving Kinect commands? I mean, after all, I imagine it will wokr like voice recognition on windows phone most of the time. It sends your command to the server and you get a reply from that server. It will be saved in the process, I'm absolutely sure about that. No one will look at it personally, but the systems will analyze all the data, making profiles and so on. And with modern supercomputers, you have such good algorithms that they can search all the data in no time. 

If we continue to feed that monster, sometime in the not too distant future, we will have a time where every human in the first world is completely transparent. And in such a future, be very careful about saying or writing anything negative about our oh so glorious democracy. It will be far worse than anything the UDSSR had to offer. And if you just pull the switch so you're no longer under supervision, guess what: You're making yourself suspicious. 

There once was a time when everyone was innocent until proven otherwise. With what's going on right now, that principle is turned upside down. Now everyone is suspicious until proven otherwise. Oh and by the way, I got nothing to hide, but that's not a reason for me to let everybody walk around inside my bedroom. 

To come back to the Xbox, I don't know what the kinect will do exactly. It could indeed happen that it won't save any data at all. But at the moment, it's best to remain skeptical. Of course, if you don't care about privacy, go ahead and buy that stuff. But don't go whining if somebody knocks on your door asking about that Che Guevara Poster on your wall.

By the way, Albert Einstein once also was called what would be todays equivalent of a tin foil head. Turns out that dude was right with all that relativity and stuff. You just never know and with things like that, it's imo better to be skepical at first than to whine about it afterwards. Because once the data is there, it won't get deleted EVER. So our only possibility is to not feed the data monster anymore. 

With all dude respect how could you use a cell phone or use Google, Facebook or Gmail, etc.?

I don't think there is a way we can avoid some 'big data' you are referring too.  Even years ago every big copy machine included a hard drive that would record everything ever copied on it. This is when the hard drives were really expensive.

It's a calculated risk.  And I think you have solid reason, in may was I agree with you. I just don't think avoiding tech is going to solve the problem unless we live out in the wilderness away from all of it.

I think we need legal reform, but unfortunately the recent the reduce the NSA was not passed by congress.  I think we also need to guarantee a free and open internet.

Like I said, my Android phone is heavily customized, so most things are not supervised. I can't change it of course for phone calls and SMS, but since Snowden, I'm encrypting instant messenges and e-mails. Yeah, I have a google account. Created it some years ago in a time, when I never believed that there was something like Prism. I imagined some of the internet would be observed, but not all of it. I just thought everythin is fine. But I was very wrong. 

Laws could help, but that will take years and in that time, data keeps getting collected. At the moment, I don't know if somebody is listening when I'm calling someone. And that feeling is just really uncomfortable for me. I also don't like to just sit there and do nothing while knowing that something is seriously wrong. And on top of that, we don't even have the full picture yet. Snowden still has things to uncover, but won't do so until he's somewhere safe. With all the stuff already discovered, what the hell is left? I can only imagine. 

I would have imagined something like that from China or North Korea. But USA? Aren't they supposed to be the "good guys"? Freedom and all? If people feel neither safe nor free in their home country, something is really wrong. Like said before, I don't think Xbox One is gonna be a super surveillance tool. But kinect still gives me the chills, just thinking of the possibilities. They won't use it that way probably. But I just don't feel good with that thing. You know? Without Snowden, I probably wouldn't give two shits. Maybe Snowden is a Sony PR man after all. :P

Just to be clear, I don't want to trash talk the Xbox One and wish every fan of it much fun with the device. It's entirely my personal opinion. I don't want someoe to stop buying it, I just think there are reasons to be careful.