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Heavenly_King on 11 June 2013

MCPOxxxAAG said:

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they can get most of their fanbase back if they remove mandatory game installs.

I don't find mandatory installs a dealbreaker. Yes, they're a pain in the arse, but I prefer them over the 24 hours check.

It is the dealbreaker, that is why there has to be DRM and restricting used games. No mandatory installs means no DRM basically

This. I dont know why M$ opted for doing this; but it is the reason of the DRM the console has. They need to stop the content for being distributed freely as you dont require the disk anymore after installing the game.

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Skeeuk on 11 June 2013

Also taking away live subscription as a way to access apps like Netflix etc . It's just been revealed you will not need a premium sub on sonys machine to access and use your apps . Microsoft should rectify this ASAP

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weaveworld on 11 June 2013

I guess we all know what most gripes with Ms are so... lose those, add free online multiplayer and they'll probably earn a head start.

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MCPOxxxAAG on 11 June 2013

Heavenly_King said:

This. I dont know why M$ opted for doing this; but it is the reason of the DRM the console has. They need to stop the content for being distributed freely as you dont require the disk anymore after installing the game.

Ill be honest; terrible time to be an xbox fan, especially when I know that MS is being extremely anti-consumer like.

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Wright on 11 June 2013

Skeeuk said:
Also taking away live subscription as a way to access apps like Netflix etc . It's just been revealed you will not need a premium sub on sonys machine to access and use your apps . Microsoft should rectify this ASAP

I'll trade paying for play but having access to your apps without doing so for free online play but paying to access your apps everyday.

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toadslayer72 on 11 June 2013

Yeah Sony did well with the DRM and price. I didn't watch their conference but that's the biggest take away I'm getting from reading people's objective comments. MS brought the games, Sony brought the lower price and less restrictions. I don't really think that MS cares though, they seem to be targeting people who can afford their console and games and stable internet in the first place. I'ts easy to say that the cheapest console will destroy but I'm not so sure about that. I guess we'll see but I'm happy for Sony fans that they are at least getting some of what they hoped for.

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Euphoria14 on 11 June 2013

They could trump Sony if they do the following:

#1.) Lower the entry price.
#2.) Remove mandatory installs
#3.) Remove online requirements
#4.) Allow game lending and game rentals
#5.) Allow private selling of retail games we OWN

Could name some more, but these are the bigger ones.

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crissindahouse on 11 June 2013

MCPOxxxAAG said:

they can get most of their fanbase back if they remove mandatory game installs.

that's the best part of the console, will help developers a lot for game development if the whole game runs from the hdd...

i think 24h check won't be really a problem even when most on forums say that. next gen will be pretty much almost all about online. ps4 as well... but they should stop with the used games and no rental stuff.