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Xenobot on 11 June 2013
Wright said:

-> Dropping the 24 hours check.

-> Not making the users pay for Gold to play online.

 

The used games would still be a turn-off to a lot of people, but they could overcome it (Microsoft, I mean) eventually.

I'm asking too much, but hey.


And drop price to 399

And make Kinect optional (for 59)

And provide streaming cloud gaming (with Xbox 360 titles)

And make HDD removable

And unlock DRM

And drop TV crap

And bring back Bungie

And chang specs to DDR 5

Yep - that would do it

 



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GameAnalyser on 11 June 2013
Euphoria14 said:
They could trump Sony if they do the following:

#1.) Lower the entry price.
#2.) Remove mandatory installs
#3.) Remove online requirements
#4.) Allow game lending and game rentals
#5.) Allow private selling of retail games we OWN

Could name some more, but these are the bigger ones.

Or else it's Jumping out.



Darth Tigris on 11 June 2013

Noticeably lower game prices due to the DRM.



thranx on 11 June 2013
thx1139 said:
Honestly Price is the biggest issue. DRM complaining is noise. For the mass market they will see the $499 vs $399 as the biggest issue that MS will have to do a great sales job to get past. The world is moving away from physical media and the era of used physical disks is going the way of the dodo. MS should, but wont go all in on this (at least not yet) and set the MSRP on games at $20 less than the PS4 games. With the DRM in place MS can justify it with publishers because they will get more volume.

I am still waiting to see the PS4 interface. Have they shown at all how you will move from playing a game to watching a movie on NetFlix? I suspect it will be very similar to PS3 and Xbox 360. Separate apps that need to shut down before the next can start up. MS needs to sell this difference very hard. Xbox One is a next generation device and PS4 is just a leap in processing and graphics power.

That was the one trump card I thought they could play closer to release. Anounce all xbox one games will retail at a cheaper price. They need some kind of price advantage. At least in the US price probably plays one of if not the biggest role, in deciding what to buy.



tiffac on 11 June 2013

Just remove the DRM & Used game restrictions and I don't see why the X1 can't dominate the upcoming generation.



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thranx on 11 June 2013
tiffac said:
Just remove the DRM & Used game restrictions and I don't see why the X1 can't dominate the upcoming generation.


While the inernet is up in arms about that, most consumers really will not care. They will see the 399 vs 499 as the biggest difference between the 2



thx1139 on 11 June 2013

The other thing MS needs to do is really describe the changes to Xbox Live subscriptions. For instance does the capability of 10 family member game sharing mean what it appears to mean. For instance my family. Within a couple of years. My sister will have an Xbox One in Arkansas, my son will have an Xbox One when he goes away to School this fall. We will have a couple in our house. Now if we can purchase one copy of the next Halo and all of us play it because we are all part of one Xbox Family membership that is huge. If we can play multiplayer without a disc per Xbox that would be huge.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Rafux on 11 June 2013
weaveworld said:
I guess we all know what most gripes with Ms are so... lose those, add free online multiplayer and they'll probably earn a head start.


Even if they remove all DRM and add free online the X1 is still 500$ and needs kinect always attached.



endimion on 11 June 2013

They already trump Sony on so many levels its not even funny....
I don't see the issue with check ins every 24 hour.... I'm always on and don't see the point of not being always on...

mandatory install.... I actually plan on not buying a single disc this generation if they release in GoD on day one.... Disc are so obsolete they shouldn't have been invented in the first place...

and that not sharing game is weird but from what I get you can pretty much retrieve your library on any xb1 when you log in with your gold account on a friend box.... And you can share your entire library with up to 10 people that is more than my entire household and all the friends I'm willing to share my games with... And to me this is way more efficient and modern than the pseudo landing process Sony tries to make appear like better... On one side I can give access to my entire library to 10 people on the other I have to land the disc (risk its destruction or loss) and can't play with it while its landed... And that for each and every game.... So yeah I'm limited to 10 people but come on this is 2013

and finally second hand fee is up to devs to enforce or not... Which is pretty much a non MS issue...

to that you add all the goodies MS masters way better than anyone else... With also the heavy investment they do on infrastructure... So I don't see where Sony beats it for me beside some old school standards that are great... But nowhere close to enough for me and my entertainment needs.....



TheKoreanGuy on 11 June 2013
sales2099 said:
Keep Gold. PS Plus is mandatory so just keep the free games coming.


Take away 24 hour check in, and remove restrictions on used games and sharing. Boom.

And lower the price. No one in this day and age will pay $499 for something like Xbox one.