do you think sony was aware of ylod?  i've had 2 of those and never a rrod.  and ms took better care of those with rrods than sony i can tell you that first hand  that argument is so stale.  every time i see it i wish the author fist punch them in the face.

you would swear ms didnt suck the last few years apres the rrod years.   its like thats all sony lovers have to live.

Ah, thats the angle you use. I agree, PS3 most likely will overtake X360, but it has not yet happened (according to VGC). So if I talk about the situation, I can only say as it is now, I don't have the ability to look into the future. This thread even assumes the PS3 will overtake Wii, something that is highly unlikely. So unlikely that ethomaz who says this will happen ignores my offer of a bet over this issue. So even loud Sony-fans don't really believe that it will happen. But at the same time they are talking about #1 (what they are not for the gen 7 yet and maybe never) or that people in 2020 will only remember the winner PS3. Do you get why people are often annoyed by some Sony-fans? Current situation is: PS3 is third, but nearly tied with X360 (differences are in the margin of error, so I see them personally as tied) and Wii leads by some amount.

Sorry I have bad feelings with bets... and that is a too long term bet.

But I can make a bet with you... PS3 will outsell the Wii lifetime someday... what will be the rules???

I agree that biggest competition for PS4 will come from PS3. Far more than the PS2 ever competed with the PS3.

Anyone with an ounce of insight would know that PS2 and PS3 situations are not compareable. People who want an easy fix this gen are doing it through phones and tablets and the PS2 was part of an entirely different market. It had a 75% marketshare for chrissake, it had incredible support, even after the PS3 launched and after hitting 99$ retail globally, it sold well all over the world, especially Eastern Europe and South America as these are the biggest emerging markets.

The fact that the PS2's installed base is allocated with less than 1/6 in Asia, counting out Japan shows that me and hsrob has it exactly right. For the record, that is about 15-16% of a consoles total sales in a region with over 4.000.000.000 people, it is truly a tiny market, especially when you consider the fact that Korea, Taiwan and Indonesia will be home to the vast majority of those sales. China and India are probably the least important per capita market for gaming consoles in the entire world, discounting 3rd world countries where 99% of the population are destitute, that is.

You should try to learn a thing or two before you call people trolls, laugh at their logic or otherwise try to impose your own on anyone. The fact that your feeble argumentation efforts lead to a ban really says it all. 

No, its still third.

Its not about the ammount of units sold at the eleventh hour but about the market share for several years.

first you have to think about the financial situation Sony is in. then you have to look at strategy. just because PS4 is out, doesn't mean PS3 isn't in a strategic position, and can't be marketed.

price drops are all about timing, and Sony missed a huge opportunity by not droping price in 2012. 

Sony could cut the price to $179 this yr. and keep it that way till 2015-2016-2020 and then cut it to $149 then.

Damage control? You mistake me for someone who actually cares whether the PS3 sells X number or not.

Logic can only get you so far when you are not in possession of, or choose to ignore, the facts.  You propped your argument up against China, about which you clearly know very little and to then suggest that PS3 is now in the same position that PS2 was at a similar time is just naive.

Is it possible for the PS3 to surpass 100 million, surely, but it is far from a certainty at this point.

Nice article, but I stopped reading here :)

"And an even more affordable new Wii Mini system has failed to pick up momentum, only managing to shift about 36,000 units since its release on December 7 across Canada."

Come on man, it's Canada! They'll release it elsewhere and it will have more sales. Not many more but still more.
Also the Wii will be marketed to more developing regions Reggie mentioned, so let's not put the cart before the horse.

With Sony I say it is possible...another price reduction or 2, more marketing a penetration is smaller places(not sure if there are many that they are already not in.) and continued support(as they have repeatedly said they would do) and I think they can hit anywhere in between 90-100 million personally. Not sure if they will pass the Wii but I do think they will get close to it.

Sony has done HORRIBLE financially and as a business with the PS3 no denying that. But as a GAMER I couldn't be happier with them, what they have done and what they have offered this generation. Plenty of great new IPs, great sequels to olders games PS PLUS is an EXCELLENT service. PSN has come a LONG way and is also GREAT for a free service. Yeah I don't like the way their finances look but as far as games and entertainment they have made me a very happy camper!

I will never understand why people feel the need to down SONY, NINTENDO, MICROSOFT. People have different opinions on things and like/dislike companies for different reasons. To each his/her own...why not just agree to disagree instead of attacking one another...WHERE IS THE LOVE LOL!!!